VAUGHAN'S AIR OF MYSTIQUE

[Eric J. Moreels]

<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/0403/mystique_1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/0403/mystique_1t.jpg" align=left alt="Mystique #1 preview"></a>As part of Marvel's recent tease for their upcoming new Tsunami brand of titles to launch in April was one image with the tagline "Change Is Good". The image was eventually revealed as Mystique, a new monthly series from Marvel written by Brian K. Vaughan (Chamber, Y: The Last Man) with art by Jorge Lucas (Black Panther) and covers by Dawn creator Joseph Michael Linsner.

X-Fan recently caught up with Vaughan to find out more about the series and his take on everyone's favorite shape-shifting mutant terrorist.

X-FAN: First up, how did the project originate?

VAUGHAN: I had a great time working with editors Mike Marts and Mike Raicht on our Chamber mini-series, and they were nice enough to ask if I'd be interested in doing a book about Mystique (with terrific new editor Nova Suma). To be honest, I was never really a big fan of the character, but the more I thought about her, the more I realized her potential.

X-FAN: How did the book come to fall under the Tsunami umbrella?

<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/changeisgood.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/changeisgoodt.jpg" align=right alt="Mystique teaser image"></a>VAUGHAN: I actually didn't even hear about Tsunami until a few days ago. I always try to keep my stuff completely accessible to new readers (especially non-comics readers), and to tell stories in self-contained arcs, so Mystique definitely fits in with what Marvel is trying to accomplish with this new loose confederation of titles.

And I think the term "manga" is really overused/misused these days (it's the new "film noir"). I'm just a dumb Westerner, so I'll let more qualified people decide whether or not Mystique is manga. I just know that it's a cool story, wonderfully drawn by the super-talented Jorge Lucas.

X-FAN: Why Mystique, and why a monthly Mystique book?

VAUGHAN: Any character can support his or her own series, as long as there are passionate creators who have good stories to tell. Hopefully, readers will be pleasantly surprised by how far we can take "that naked blue girl from the X-Men flick."

<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTinkpg2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTinkpg2t.jpg" align=right alt="Mystique #1 Page 2 preview"></a>Recently, there have been a lot of comics where dangerous female characters are "tamed" and/or reformed. I think we have to ask ourselves why we compulsively need to "fix" complicated women, when we would never dream of doing the same thing to Wolverine, Punisher, John Constantine, etc. I have no interest in writing a book about an insane, unrepentantly evil woman, but I would like to write a book about a cool, badass, three-dimensional anti-hero with a complex sense of morality. Hopefully, that will make Mystique unique. I'm not saying that she'll never grow or change, but when she does, she'll be doing it on her own terms.

X-FAN: Mystique has been presented in many different ways over the years - devious schemer, lesbian lover, caring mother, insane terrorist, but what do you see as the core of her character? What do you think makes her tick?

X-FAN: Mystique isn't an evil woman, she's an opportunist. She's more than happy to do the right thing (especially for her fellow oppressed mutants), but only if she stands to personally gain something by doing it. And while Mystique is willing to kill, she's not a cold-blooded murderer. Her motto is, "I'll only waste a bullet on those who really deserve one." A fan of old Coppola movies and bad fast food, Mystique is a quick-witted, likable mercenary who loves her life.

<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTinkpg3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTinkpg3t.jpg" align=right alt="Mystique #1 Page 3 preview"></a>Our series will be a brand new beginning for Mystique, as she's forced to end her beloved freelancing career and go to work full-time for a man who was once her enemy. She'll still be the manipulative ass-kicker she's always been, but now she'll be doing it for a good cause. And along the way, Mystique might (MIGHT!) begin to reevaluate her selfish ways. Because while the shape-shifter claims that she's perfectly happy with who she is, there must be a reason why she can never look at her true reflection in the mirror...

X-FAN: Will her past ties with Destiny, Rogue and the Brotherhood factor into the monthly series at all?

VAUGHAN: Well, we won't be contradicting anything that happened to Mystique in her past, but this book is really about the character's future. I want our series to be accessible to anyone, whether they know Mystique from the comics, the movies, or the cartoons, or if they've never even heard of her at all.

Mystique is a mutant, born with the ability to perfectly impersonate the appearance and voice of ANYONE. She spent a few years leading the Brotherhood, a terrorist group of pro-mutant extremists, but now she's working solo. That's all you need to know!

<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTcolorpg6.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTcolorpg6t.jpg" align=right alt="Mystique #1 Page 6 preview"></a>X-FAN: What about ramifications of her past (mis)deeds, such as the destruiction of Muir Island, for example? Will any of those come back to haunt her?

VAUGHAN: Again, we won't be dwelling on specific incidents, but I did read EVERY SINGLE APPEARANCE of Mystique before I started writing this book, and I promise not to ignore any of her past crimes.

X-FAN: So they could still come back to bite her in the butt?

VAUGHAN: Yes, but you might be surprised who's doing the biting!

X-FAN: What's the premise of your initial story arc?

VAUGHAN: Our first arc involves Mystique becoming the James Bond to Professor X's 'M' (with mutant inventor Forge as their gadget-building 'Q'). Now that Xavier and his X-Men have 'outed' themselves to the world, the Professor occasionally needs top-secret agents for politically sensitive missions where a jet filled with eight uniformed mutants would be inappropriate. But if you want to know why the hell a terrorist like Mystique and a pacifist like Xavier would ever work together, you'll have to read our first issue.

X-FAN: Will readers be seeing any ramifications of Mystique and Forge's romantic falling out?

<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTinkpg17.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTinkpg17t.jpg" align=right alt="Mystique #1 Page 17 preview"></a>VAUGHAN: That would be telling...

X-FAN: Without wanting to pigeon-hole it, how would you categorize/define the series?

VAUGHAN: Despite the success of espionage thrillers like TV's Alias, XXX, and the James Bond films, there are very few comics in that genre. This is the perfect medium for sexy, fast-paced, way-over-budget spy adventures, and Mystique is the perfect protagonist for that kind of book.

X-FAN: What's it like working with Jorge Lucas? What do you think he's bringing to the series?

VAUGHAN: As anyone who's been reading Black Panther knows, Jorge Lucas is AMAZING. A truly gifted storyteller. Having him as a collaborator is fantastic, because I know he can draw absolutely any insane action scene I imagine, AND turn it in ahead of schedule!

X-FAN: Joe Linsner covers - you have to be happy with those? :yes:

VAUGHAN: Yeah, they're beautiful! Yorick was naked (wearing only chains, and looking pretty ripped) on the cover of a recent issue of Y: The Last Man, so hopefully, female readers won't begrudge me one scantily clad woman on the cover of Mystique.

<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTLinsner.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTLinsnert.jpg" align=right alt="Mystique #1 original cover pencils"></a>Seriously, this is a sexy book, but anyone who's read an issue of Y: The Last Man hopefully knows that I would never in a million years want to be involved with something that's simply a "cheesecake," "bad girl," "gratuitous T & A," "insert tired old cliche here," book. I want to tell a fun, action-packed, intelligent espionage story, and Jorge Lucas' artwork is friggin' awesome. What more do you need?

X-FAN: Any tidbits you can divulge for future story arcs?

VAUGHAN: Sorry! Mystique's future missions are classified.

X-FAN: What do you hope to accomplish with the series?

VAUGHAN: When I was doing research for Y: The Last Man, I read a book called Bitch, by much-maligned author Elizabeth Wurtzel. Not a great book, but an interesting study of "difficult" women from Delilah to Amy Fisher. I thought it would be fun to do a smart comic about a proudly defiant, dangerous female character, and explore the conditions that helped create her, as well as the way men and women respond to her. That's what I hope to accomplish with Mystique.

X-Fan would like to thank editor Nova Ren Suma for the above preview images for Mystique #1.

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[Benjamin Ong]

The art alone is worth the price of admission, me thinks. Coupled with Vaughan's writing, this is gonna be a winner.

[Drax]

Um...well, yay. This is great. The one new book Marvel is putting out in April that I have no doubt I'll love. It could be half as good as Y and still be amazing. And I really like Lucas' art. It has been whats been keeping me on BP lately.

[MaggottFanMan]

I'll definetly be picking this one up. Sounds awesome and the art is also looking sweet!

[DCUnited]

Now that I know something about this book I think I'll check it out. What little we knew before wasn't enough to get my interest, but now this is quite possibly the one book coming out in April that I'm looking forward to the most.

[Merlin]

It sounds like Mystique is becoming the new Sage

Tessa was Xavier secret agent and now that she left him, he has moved to Mystique.

[Unicorn_Pegasus]

:excited: Ooooh, I am so gonna be reading this one. :D I Love the art inside and out, but Especially the cover. I hope her sexuality (sexual orientation, that is ;) ) will come into play a bit. :)

[BoomBot]

Damn, this book looks too good! I can't wait! This is the type of Mystique story I'm looking for. Lucas' art is pretty good too but I'm not too keen on Linsner. I'm especially glad that he's dropping all the Rogue/other-Mystique connections to virtually everyone. They're getting quite ridiculous and hopefully that fandom doesn't cloud the book. The Prof. X and Forge connections will be cool and even better.

[venombytes]

Ditto on her sexuality unicorn. I'm really excited about this book. :excited:

[Zachary J. Morrison]

DAMN...This is good-looking art. I look forward to reading this book. I hope to be able to get myself a job soon, so I can afford to get MORE books. Anyways, I liked reading the article, and I can't wait to see Brian's writing. I like what he has to say in the article. It's unique :)

[Jamal]

Wow! :mystique: is so cool. I can't wait for this one. Forge & Professor make a really cool supporting cast. And did any one else see the possible hint at a Wolfsbane appearance? That would be awesome too.

[Lia Brown]

Don't really care for the art, but I'm looking forward to what Vaughan's got planned for the series.

If he really did read all of her previous appearances.....I'm impressed :)

[Benjamin Ong]

I wonder if Mystique would be part of Professor Xavier's X-Corporation where X-agents infiltrate the world's organisations and political forces.

Perhaps even a crossover with Weapon X down the road, where Xavier's agents go up against the Director and his gang.

[ultimateX]

is that cover for playboy or for marvel?

i didn't know that mystique had that great body!

and now she's working for xavier?!?

that is something to look forward to.

what happens when the xmen find out? how would they react, especially what happened in the X-corps story arc?

i wish writers would come up with a story of how the "true" heroes will react if they find themselves fighting alongside with their long time enemies.

[Jazz]

I'm so looking forward to this.
Hello Proffessshor! j/k It's just not the same as with Connery.
I wonder if Forge and Mystique will get together again?

[Andrew Stoneham]

I will defiantly be picking this book up, the premise is awsome I love espionage and all that spy stuff and the art is :love: I think that this book is going to be a winner.

[Chris Eight]

Mystique is a complex woman with a great history, i hope that her past is exploted as much as they can, the Art's looking great as well

[krynnsman]

This is on of the three titles I be picking up under the Tsunami line( along with Venom & Runaways ) The art in Mystique looks amazing, I love the character and the writer, so I don't think I'll be disappointed.

[mikecool]

eh im not a HUGE vaughn fan but this sounds good. Lucas is alright but it sounds like Vaugn has some awesome ideas but again i liked his Chamber didnt like his Y:last man stuff. overall its a wait and see project for me i wont pre order it but if i see a copy in the store ill pick it up and if there isnt a copy ill just move on. no biggie. I still dont know how long Mystique will last but im pretty sure it lasts longer than Runaways does.

[THE REAL MCCOY]

I am looking forward to the Mystique series. But to be honest, Vaughan's stories have never been my cup of tea. I didn't really like his mini series last year. But I'm willing to give me the benefit of the doubt and pick up the first couple of issues.

[Andy James]

Looks really good and this is one of my most eagerly anticipated Tsunami books but i question how long an ongoing with her can continue. Hopefully im proved wrong so all us X Fans must buy the series :yes:

[Steven Paul]

Originally posted by Benjamin Ong
The art alone is worth the price of admission, me thinks. Coupled with Vaughan's writing, this is gonna be a winner.

I agree completely! I loved Vaughan's Chamber Icon and I'm happy this will be an ongoing. Even better is the fact that Forge will be involved!!

[Refleshed]

The art looks cool, this book's a definate buyer!

Especially the working together between Mystique and Xavier caught my interest. Always thought the two were like mortal enemies, especially after (New) X-Men#109... can't wait to see this. :)

[Rimpelwillem Returns]

that's some steamy, hot, sexy art...
jeez....
And I am really curious as to why raven would be working for the prof... And what Forge is suddenly doing here...
I just hope it itsn't such a strange version of the professor as in the last 2 Xstatics issues.

[Alex Guillen]

looks awsome, I'm really excited to see vaughn's plans for Mystique from now on since she'll be an agent for Xavier. Quite the interesting twist and Forge might show up as well.

[Refleshed]

The guy who spouts out the fire... looks like Chamber, doesn't he? Could that be him :?

[Drackdallion]

I am truly amazed by the art, I never believed Mystique could look like that (but, hey, sheps a shapeshifter, isn´t she?). The Supporting cast is the best. We´ll get to see Forge again in a more active role, and maybe (hint, hint) as a returning love interest. Mystique has shown she can be both evil and very moral, so we can expect to see some really cool espionage adventures where she kicks @$$ over and over, still developing a a character who´s borderline between bad and good.
Can´t wait

[Tarl]

That sound extremely interesting! But didn't they learn from X-Factor? Mystique will only pretent to be a good guy!

[gambitX]

Man... I am drooling by looking at the art already!
and Vaughn rocks!

[Stormy]

Forge -- finally! It feels like lately we're being spoiled with guest appearances from all our fave limbo characters. I hope Rahne comes back with an axe to grind too...

[Codym]

Does not kill in cold blood? Killing only those who deserve it? I'm a little desturbed by this. She's murdered so many people in her career its not funny, usually those who didn't deserve it, and after what she did to Moria MacTaggert and Sean Cassidy, I find it hard to believe anyone associated with the X-Men would go near her, except perhaps to take her out for good. And wasn't she in her last couple of appearances trying to take out as many humans as possible? Hardly a case of "doing the right thing."

Mystique is a compulsive lair, cheat and betrayer, with a unhealthy does of racism. This sounds like the exact thing Vaughn claims he trying not to do: soften Mystique and make her a "good girl."

I'll give it a try, because I liked his Chamber series, but he better have a better handle on the character than this interview would lead me to believe.

[Negasonic Warhead]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Codym
[B]Does not kill in cold blood? Killing only those who deserve it? I'm a little desturbed by this. She's murdered so many people in her career its not funny, usually those who didn't deserve it, and after what she did to Moria MacTaggert and Sean Cassidy, I find it hard to believe anyone associated with the X-Men would go near her, except perhaps to take her out for good. And wasn't she in her last couple of appearances trying to take out as many humans as possible? Hardly a case of "doing the right thing."

Mystique is a compulsive lair, cheat and betrayer, with a unhealthy does of racism. This sounds like the exact thing Vaughn claims he trying not to do: soften Mystique and make her a "good girl."

It is a bit off-putting that Vaughan would try and defend this "madwoman" after all she's done to other characters (Moira and Sean, for starters).
But, I'm still going to try this one out because I believe in Vaughan's writing.

[Wolverine]

This is so great! I'm really looking forward to it

[Al Harahap]

Originally posted by Teenage Warhead
It is a bit off-putting that Vaughan would try and defend this "madwoman" after all she's done to other characters (Moira and Sean, for starters).

He's not "defending" her; he's just going to write stories from her perspective. It's called "revisionist" -- where a villain or antagonist is written as the main character. It's like when people think you do something bad, and you want them to know your side of the story. Well, this is Mystique's.

[spinarakboi]

Juggernaut, Mystique... slowly going over to the good side. Bout time.... Well I have to say I wasn't really that interested in this comic until I read this and now I am for sure going to pick up the first arc and go from there. looking forward to it ^_^

[theory]

i might be picking this title up. vaughn and lucas are a good set, interesting premise. looking forward to seeing how xaiver and raven make a pact, they werent really on the best of terms in dreams end. and i hope abyss shows up sometime, he seems like he could fit in somewhere too.

[ReaperFett]

Part of me wants to read this, but I never liked Mystique's power that much. I always felt it could be TOO good.

[BoomBot]

To me, it doesn't seem like it's that hard for Mystique and Prof. X to join peacefully.

[Negasonic Warhead]

Originally posted by Al Harahap
He's not "defending" her; he's just going to write stories from her perspective. It's called "revisionist" -- where a villain or antagonist is written as the main character. It's like when people think you do something bad, and you want them to know your side of the story. Well, this is Mystique's.


Yeah, you're right, and I know that Vaughan will probably deal with the issues I have with Mystique working for Xavier. That's why I'm going to try this one out; as I said before, I have faith in his writing. :)

[Angela Orosco]

After reading the interview, i'm starting to have some doubts on how well he will write Mystique. She is supposed to be evil! Leave her that way! If you make her a good girl than I will drop this title in an instant. There are already too many of those girls.

I love the Chamber ICON series though. It was real great. I want to see Chamber more also.

[ArchangelX]

This book has a lot of potential and I hop it'll last and not fall short about issue 12 or so. I hope Mystique won't cross sides and stays on the "bad" side. After all, If Mystique gains something with siging up with Xavier, I'm sure if Sabretooth came along with something she could gain, she'd team up with him just as well. Maybe Xavier will get burned!!!! He's always trying to rehabilitate someone, let Mystique prove him wrong like he was with Sabretooth.

I am so ready for this book!

[strangerx]

I don't know, I would think that after killing Moira, Xavier would close the door on Mystique. Even he has to draw the line somewhere.

I just hope that Vaughan brings up what happened to Banshee in this book, and maybe even bring him in an arc to try and settle the score.

An appearance by Chamber would be cool too, but thats just because I really like Chamber and Vaughan did an excellent job on the mini. It has nothing to do with mystique what so ever.:D

[Random Guy]

Didn`t Mystique get sucked into some interdimensional rift by Abyss??? This, btw, was at the end of Casey's great X-corps arc. Or was she restored at some point???

[steve2275]

I MIGHT GET THIS
http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/previews/MYSTinkpg17.jpg LOVE THEM STOCKINGS

[Lia Brown]

Originally posted by Random Guy
Didn`t Mystique get sucked into some interdimensional rift by Abyss??? This, btw, was at the end of Casey's great X-corps arc. Or was she restored at some point???

We haven't seen her since, no. Don't know how she's going to get out.

[Topper Harley]

I must say my interest has been piqued.

I've never been a fan of Mystique, however after finally reading a worthwhile Icons book, I'm definately prepared to spend my hard-earned spondulix on Vaughans take on Mystique.

Like a few previous comments indicate, it will be interesting to hear how Xavier justifys having her. Especially bearing in mind that which she did to Moira, and Cassidy.

I would hope eventually to see Banshee and Abyss show up. Glad to see that Forge will be involved too.

[zenith16]

well it's interesting and all but........... ummm. That make's no sence why Xaiver would let her work for him or have her do any thing to do with the X-men Ever again.

Especially after what Mystique did to moira, why is it when Brian K Vaughan come's in to to do a title, Common sence with in the Story's the X-book's get's thrown straight out the window? oy.


Ok, please don't any one take this the wrong way, I'm still Advocate second chance's for people.


But this women Mistique own chance, went past that long ago. and shouldn't be forgiven or give another or be even near the X-Men as "co-worker " ever Again. Ever.


I still feel Mytique Threw Away her chance's at Redemtion, when she killed Moira, and don't give me any Excueses, she made the Virus in Moira body worse. and even if she has shown a good side to her,( to you guy's she just did to help and just went mad.) But what about the times befor that when she didn't reach that stage she was still killing people.

She knew what she was doing in my eye's.

What was her Excuses back then?

She's not even sorry for what she did. To me nothing justify's that. I know some of us keep saing she's insane, Well So was Stryfe.(X-Cutioner's song and in Father's and son's)( (he messed up be of apoc ,and what apoc fed him about his perents, and nothing more, which made him the mad man we know or knew.)and so have a number of other's.
IF she should get redemtion so should he.(by stoping him Self from bring the virus in the first place.) other wise just her getting redemtion. Well it's just being "hypacritical".

Anyway's to me there's not Enough people in X-comic's to turn to the right side. cept for the white Queen. and there are "convits a big number in Real life" I might Add, who have changed their ways. and Remember how many time's someone on this board pushes for that.


I saw Moira as Family to them(x-Men) and if it were me her ever fully getting forgiven or trusted.( which I doubt) is never again. I don't if it was me I'd be ticked off. and I wouldn't know What I do, if I saw a person who killed off someone I consider family. and I think she passed her time for this. she need's to pay.

Anyway that's how I feel on the Mystique issue thing.

She had been given a lot of chances and she spat on them, every time when given.

No, The Rope been cut long ago, and she did the cutting.

It's went past way "Too late" for her for her, to be let be forgiven since keep's doing itover and over.

What she did was not only premeditated, it can be seen as man Slaughter. other wise know as "Murder 1," in North America, that's term's for the "death penalty." and she went as far to try and kill another person who was close to moira and the X-Men.
not to ment to human's on that boat.
it just does make sence for that to be droped for Xaiver and the rest of them.



No she's not sorry and seem's to be in the right state of mind since she knows and plan's care fully, by the way she planed for ever contingence. and was prepaid for every interfearance and counterted them all with Extreme Deadly force.

She like's being Evil let her stay that way. I wont blame any of the X-Men for killing her on sit if seen, Exspecialy wolf's bain. and I hope to see that happen too. They can play the game's all they want with her. but Seriously don't let her back in that "X- organization." No one in real life would do let mystique back in if some as close to them as family as moira was to the X-men, was kill by mystique.

Make a llittle more sence please. sheesh.

[ArchangelX]

I think some people are too focused on how wrong it is for Xavier to work with Mystique when the real question should be, what would possess Xavier to tie such a bond to begin with? Xavier isn't all Mr. Nice Guy himself. If I recall, he has some deep dark secrets of his own.

[Stormy]

Marvel posted a dotcomic preview of Mystique #1. Unfortunately, Mystique herself doesn't seem to appear in the pages released, although ProfX and Jean do.

[zenith16]

Originally posted by ArchangelX
I think some people are too focused on how wrong it is for Xavier to work with Mystique when the real question should be, what would possess Xavier to tie such a bond to begin with? Xavier isn't all Mr. Nice Guy himself. If I recall, he has some deep dark secrets of his own. Deep Dark Secret's that we've seen already, which didn't Extend to Terrorism orkilling of a nother race. and stuff that was forced on to him whish shouln't have been like Cassandra nova, cause it Convoluted the origin story he had already.

The whole Reason he made the X-men was to Fight crime and people as Evil as mistique is in the first place. plus it Totally doesn't make sence for him to work with, or let her work for him, after his closest of friend's Espeacilly after how he grew up and she was his only friend for a time, "was killed" by that Very same person.


No matter what Xaiver own past is,(which was shown it doesn't make sence for him to go to this point) that Doesn't make sence for him to that.

Especially After some one as close as Family "to him," (moira) was killed by that very same person.(Mystique) Especially since he never Support that pathor shown any. of which Mystique was doing in the first place and he was plainly Againt it From the begining.


Common Sence is what I'm pointing at here. And no one in Real life or other wise would be so Stupid, unless they've Cracked.

And if he has cracked, why isn't anyone with that Group's that are still near him questioning his sanity and action's? save for X-treme team. Like I said all common sence has gone out the window. make some sence here. that all I'm getting at.

[ArchangelX]

[i]No matter what Xaiver own past is,(which was shown it doesn't make sence for him to go to this point) that Doesn't make sence for him to that.

Especially After some one as close as Family "to him," (moira) was killed by that very same person.(Mystique) Especially since he never Support that pathor shown any. of which Mystique was doing in the first place and he was plainly Againt it From the begining.


Common Sence is what I'm pointing at here. And no one in Real life or other wise would be so Stupid, unless they've Cracked.[/B]

In real life, people who has suffered as Xavier has will take drastic measures to ease their pain. What if Xavier is setting up Mystique? he's done it Magneto more than once. Plus, after Moira, Genosha, and the riot of the school, Who's to say Xavier isn't fed up with being the Mr. Nice guy and changes to start taking action?

And when you are pointing out common sense and mentioning real life, keep in mind that nothing is "common sense" when a writer starts these things and nothing about it is "real life", which allows the writer to create some shock value for unsuspecting fans like you who think it will never happen.

All I'm saying is with the way things have been happening in all the X-Books and soon to come, anything is possible.

[zenith16]

Originally posted by ArchangelX
In real life, people who has suffered as Xavier has will take drastic measures to ease their pain. What if Xavier is setting up Mystique? he's done it Magneto more than once. Plus, after Moira, Genosha, and the riot of the school, Who's to say Xavier isn't fed up with being the Mr. Nice guy and changes to start taking action?


No they wouldn't. Not while she's still wanted for a huge number of Death's, and Terrorist act's, such as the human's she killed on the way befor reaching moira to same thing .

They'd do anything to bring her to justice, if they can, but since Xaiver's in the Delicate place and position of Trying to prove to human's that they can live in peace with mutant's, side by side that's the Stupidest move to do.

plus she killed his best Friend. for Christ sake's

No the First some one like him would bring her into justice Crippeled. They wouldn't bother with that sorta of game, if it is as you said.


Two magneto unfortunitly was never found guilty, when he was in jail and let go after, or had a huge pile of Evadence Againt's him, as she has right now. save for Attem's that them.

he was more of an "hard to catch, hard to get to" kinda character. in which the Action's your claiming would make Sence for Xaver to take that sorta of Action. She on the other hand and Evadentally is not, And should pay for the God Damn crime's she's commited which all to still Resently.

[i]
And when you are pointing out common sense and mentioning real life, keep in mind that nothing is "common sense" when a writer starts these things and nothing about it is "real life", which allows the writer to create some shock value for unsuspecting fans like you who think it will never happen. [/B]


ohhhhhh, that's Funny. Since that's what they've been pushing since the Dang Revamp started, "more Realism," "oh it's so much more Realistick now." Thank's for Finally stateing the Truth. this why it'll be look on as a joke later, when that's alot of looked back at it. :eek:

I know way more then you think. this the messed up thing that happen in the cycke LS, with t he juggernautstill being villain after he was set up to become a good guy, in the "X-men Forever LS," which went on for a while after ward'swith other's Of which some else(Mr chuck Austen ) had to Fix that mistake After ward's.


[i]
All I'm saying is with the way things have been happening in all the X-Books and soon to come, anything is possible. [/B]


that's what I think it should be "Any thing's possable" but the more likely thing to be possable and should be thatway, keep's being ignored, and it' really look's silly After ward's. Especially with that saying of Realism that get's soundbiten after it's was said by those same wrter's after the revamp.

For god' s sake just please do your home work, the X-men wont let her back in Again they's kill first, if they ever saw her again. if they Don't bother of Relocking up Ever Again that is. and that's all I'm saying.

[ArchangelX]

First of all Zenith, this is a discussion board, not a knock-down-other-posters-you-don't-agree-with board.

I never said the X-Men are letting her back in. Do your own homework and read what this series is discussing.

It reveals that Mystique has some kind of business ties wth Xavier. I'm not the one who thought this up. The writers did. All I'm doing is adding my opinion "why" these two opposites would join such an alliance.

Don't go jumping all on me about the two working together. I'm not writing the book. If you got a better explination on why they are, then post it instead of bashing other's opionions.

lastly, I was just conversing through the boards and replying to your posts as to brainstorm about this, and in no way was I attacking you or critizing your own opionion. I think you take this way too seriously. Let's just have fun with the board, okay?

[zenith16]

Originally posted by ArchangelX
First of all Zenith, this is a discussion board, not a knock-down-other-posters-you-don't-agree-with board.

well That wasn't what I was doing. if I was iwould have been much worse. I just have a strong way of coming on about thing's I care for.

[i]
I never said the X-Men are letting her back in. Do your own homework and read what this series is discussing.[/B]

I know you didn't say that but the Artical implied this,by not just Xaiver but forge and a number of other's too. and Trust me like a Said I Do alot more home work then you'll know, other wise my work wouldn'tbe put up at this site.

http://mutanthigh.dnsart.com/
[i]
It reveals that Mystique has some kind of business ties wth Xavier.[/B]

that's the point of what I'm saying the only business he has with her is to ether lock her up or kill her, for what she did to people close to him. End Story.
Xaiver working with her is none sence, and the story make's the writer look like he's not doing his home work Again. like he did with Cyclop's Icon ls. That's all I've been stateing.

[i]
I'm not the one who thought this up. The writers did. All I'm doing is adding my opinion "why" these two opposites would join such an alliance. [/B]


it beyound the Scope of All Reason, why they should. I'm just Addressing why it make's no sence.
[i]
Don't go jumping all on me about the two working together. I'm not writing the book. If you got a better explination on why they are, then post it instead of bashing other's opionions.[/B]

hey your the one that Started Arguing with me man. I just Restated why they shouldn't, as to what happened Resently. would you Work with some After they killed someone you consider the only person that was your Friend during your young day's? that was my point here. In this case there's not a good enuff reason other then xaiver's just doing so. he should be ticked. and want nothing to do with her, but to lock her up or kill her. and he know's all the people she worked with very well, so there's no point to him asking for her help. Much less working with her.

[i]
lastly, I was just conversing through the boards and replying to your posts as to brainstorm about this, and in no way was I attacking you or critizing your own opionion. [/B]



Again I never Said you were. and I never jumped you or said any really mean, other's have seen me do that, and I've only done so in defence after some has called me a name, or swore at me, there was no real trouble here. just me getting at a point which is very important to the story at hand, so may be just may be the story will make more sence,befor it get's dumped on, and the writer and fan's that's don't under stand why it's getting bad press,is because they Skipped some thing very important which seem's to be a habit when ever mr,VAUGHAN come's in and does a story cause the Editor's keep, not bothering to up date him on what the Character he's useing have done most resently.

[i]
I think you take this way too seriously. [/B]


No. I'm just passionate about these comic's and want the best for them. that's all. there's nothing wrong with that. I'm no worse the any other fan. there other's on this Forum way worse then you think I am.

In a way I'm helping Mr. VAUGHAN by voiceing my concer's, befor oop's some one else find's what was done by Mr. VAUGHAN was one of the worst thing's to be done cause they keep skipping certain important fact's about the character's he use's. which Refelct's badly on him, and his work.
[i]
Let's just have fun with the board, okay? [/B]


Hey man , that's what I alway's do. But there's nothing wrong with voicing your concer's to help out the writer ether. after all That's also what these board's are good for too Bro.

peace I'm out.

[ArchangelX]

I guess we both agree but have different interpretations. This story would really suck if the writer didn't do his homework. But I get the feeling that he has and this unerving bond will unravel with pleasantries.

[zenith16]

Originally posted by ArchangelX
I guess we both agree but have different interpretations. This story would really suck if the writer didn't do his homework. But I get the feeling that he has and this unerving bond will unravel with pleasantries. Well let's hope so. Cause from what it look's like and just from that point, it look's look's another misstake is taking place in another one of his work.

and I don't think that's a good thing for him.

All I'm saying is she was given over 3 chance's already, they even made her a member of an X-team alread.y so she was an agent of the X-men befor since most of them have done spy job's befor. And she spat on them, every time it happened and went too far the last time to the point of no return.

It's been Shown that Each and every one of the X-Men wont give it a second thought, "about killing her now" After what she did to their family (moira, banshee, Wolf'sbane even Rogue, of which she stabbed or shot all of them and one died from it.)member's, and nearly Ruined it all for them with the whole idea of "peace with human's" by blowing all those people up.

there's not one them that wont kill her now. (maybenight crawler. but she's been shown not give adamn about him. so why should he do that for her )and now there's no Excuse to keep her alive or away from her ending up behind bar's, waiting for the death penalty. that she ow's them and the rest of the world now.


Xaiver if I remember the character's right, if you go as far to hurt or as far as to kill someone he love's, or see's as Family. then god help, you from his wrath cause if he's make's the chose to "end you" it will be nasty.

And him working with after you done something like especially resently to those people he care's about, is never gonna happen again. she's Repeated this too many time's befor, when he let her in. which has gone past five time's over.

It's too stupid that he'll risk that again with her . Since she's done it the huge number that she has already.

There's this saying this evil act can never be "Repeated again, or to be Forgotten or Forgiven. And that saying is said when a person has been given more the number of chance's then they deserve to get.

No one else in the X-title's has gotten as many chance's as she(mystique) did. nore have they gotten more then one beside's her. Some of them still need's to be given that chance, if their willing to change. but they have to be willing.

She on ther other hand has never been. and it's time for every one,(both fan's and the character's) to get that Clue, "that there shouldn't be any more chance's given for her ever again.

So I hope someone(perferably his editor's) up date's Mr. VAUGHAN on all this stuff, that took place befor this title of his come's out. which took place from the X-Men titled "Dream's End's " on. which was resent and change's this Idea about Xaiver working with her again.

If not or other wise fire them (Editor's), their not doing their job.

Cause if there's not a good enough Excuse for this happening , or if he Again ignore's and another important story plot, which was a Milestone event.

Let's just say it'll seriously damage his carreer. And I surely don't want to see that happen to him, for such an "oversite"

Sorry again . And c'ya.

[Radius]

this book is gonna kick some serious ass

[Anthony Zisa]

Originally posted by zenith16
Make a llittle more sence please. sheesh.

And they say irony is dead.

--acz

[Jennifer de Vries]

Originally posted by Anthony Zisa
And they say irony is dead.

--acz

I love you so much right now. :love: Can I please have your babies?

*ahem* I think a comic with Mystique could work really well, if it's approached in the right way. Brian should be able to...

[zenith16]

Originally posted by Anthony Zisa
And they say irony is dead.

--acz well since you put it that way, it is.:cool:

[Jim Learning]

I like the artwork, and I hope that series comes to town. :)

Originally posted by Anthony Zisa
And they say irony is dead.

:LOL:

[KamalaXBondGirl]

Can't wait for Mystique to come out. Mabye Rogue will make a cameo and talk to her "MOM" about stabbing one.

[Neolithic]

Expect Rogue AND Wolverine to make an appearance if sales dip downl