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Joel Phillips
Sep 1, 2003, 01:39 pm
<a href="http://pages.sbcglobal.net/harahap/top40xs3.gif" target="_blank"><img src="http://pages.sbcglobal.net/harahap/top40xs3.gif" align=left alt="Top 40 X-Stories"></a>Greatest 40 X-Stories of All Time, Part 1: #40-31
Edited and assembled by Joel Phillips

This month marks the fortieth anniversary of the X-Men. In honor of this occasion we, the ComiX-Fan staff, have assembled our list of the 40 best X-stories those forty years have brought us. The list is the combined effort of a lengthy selection process that saw more than twenty members of the ComiX-Fan staff considering well over one hundred great stories, but in the end these were the forty that were voted to be the best of the best. This week features the bottom ten of the list, 40 through 31. We'll be bringing you another ten every week in September, right up to our pick for the #1 best X-story ever published.

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/196/xmen-030.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/196/xmen-030.jpg" align=right alt="X-Men #30 - The Ties that Bind"></a> #40: The Ties that Bind
X-Men (Vol. 2) #30
Written By: Fabian Nicieza
Art By: Andy Kubert

In The Ties that Bind, Scott Summers and Jean Grey finally marry, after years of dancing around one another, dying around one another, and marrying one another's clones. It is one of those "a beginning and an ending" type stories: a landmark in the lives of two of the X-franchise's central figures.

But none of that is why I like it, or why it belongs on this list. Why do I like it? There are four reasons:

Something Old: Logan's pining for Jean. The Logan/Jean/Scott triangle, which is usually overplayed to the point where it becomes detrimental to all three characters, feels surprisingly genuine in this issue. Rather than having Logan either sit through the wedding in discomfort or simply abandoning his friends entirely, writer Fabian Nicieza has him write Jean a letter, explaining his absence. What takes this development from good to great is the fact that Logan isn't really totally honest with Jean in the letter. It would be easy for Nicieza to have Logan pour his heart out, but Logan would never do that... in fact, it would be the exact opposite of the spirit of the letter, which Logan means to lessen Jean's uneasiness rather than deepen it. Instead Logan skirts the issue, wishing Jean well, and not saying what everyone knows he really means.

Another key development can be found later in the issue, where Wolverine, in the way only he can, gives Sabretooth a not-so-friendly warning about crashing the wedding. Even in his absence from the festivities, Logan is watching over things, and Jean in particular.

Something New: The wedding in this issue functions like a real wedding. Every stage of the wedding is represented: from getting dressed and walking down the aisle beforehand, to tossing the garter and bouquet and pushing cake in each other's faces afterward. Not a single ritual is missed. What makes this new? A lot of depictions of weddings, in comics and elsewhere, start with the walk down the aisle and end with the kiss, skipping over the other less important rituals for the sake of expediency. But by including those little pieces here and there the wedding feels complete, and thus real.

Something Borrowed: This issue borrows characters from all the other X-teams. Of course, since it only makes sense for these people to be there, and Nicieza doesn't disappoint. What makes that a noteworthy accomplishment, however, is that several of the borrowed characters actually DO something, rather than just standing in the background as often happens with these events. What's more, they act like themselves: when Strong Guy is cracking-wise, never do I think "that's not how he acts in X-Factor". Nicieza manages to have the supporting players not only saying and doing things, but saying and doing things that actually make sense for the characters.

Something Blue: OK, this segue is terrible, but blue is a color and I wanted to talk about the art. Andy Kubert's talents are on display here, as he does an amazing job with a huge cast and the fancy setting of a wedding reception. Looking back at issues like this one reminds me of better times for comics, as it feels so complete: I'm hard-pressed to find the kind of errors and other artistic oddities that are all too common in many comics today. It's a real testament to Kubert's talent that he can, in a single issue, handle the majesty of high-class dress and a fancy party, contrasted with the stark simplicity of a man on a snowy hill. Excellent work all around.

The story does suffer one handicap, however: it's about Scott and Jean. Though that sounded like a dig, I simply meant that not everyone finds these characters particularly interesting, and that naturally limits the appeal of the story for those people. Of course I am one of those people, and I still found the issue worthy of inclusion, so it is admittedly a minor hurdle.

After years of spinning their wheels, Scott and Jean's relationship finally produced something wonderful for readers to enjoy. Though the characters would spend much of the time between then and now stuck in similar cycles, The Ties that Bind stands as an oasis in the middle of it all, a place where even non-fans of the Summers Clan can smile and appreciate what these characters do for one another.
This entry written by Joel Phillips

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/194/xforce116.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/194/xforce116.jpg" align=right alt="X-Force #116 - Exit Wounds"></a> #39: Exit Wounds
X-Force #116
Written By: Peter Milligan
Art By: Mike Allred

When the May revamp of the X-Men titles came around, only X-Treme X-Men was a traditional take on the characters. Grant Morrison, Joe Casey, and Peter Milligan opened up doors for new visions of mutants in the Marvel Universe. Milligan, in particular, created an outlet for different teams with completely different themes than "sworn to protect those who hate and fear us."

Previously, X-Force was a title following Cannonball and his militant team. The revamp on this title caused much controversy because of the drastic changes. In the long term, the revamp proved to be successful.

Exit Wounds presents such a unique and entertaining story of mutants than ever before. We meet a team who is accepted by the general populace and is even celebrities. All the members live glamorous lifestyles, including sex, money, fame, power, cars, houses, champagne, talk shows, limousines, immortality, and luck, just how the characters themselves describe it. Although, having immortality was far from true. Milligan promised to create a team which has a high death toll and he delivered. In only the first issue, the whole team was killed besides now fan-favorites U-Go Girl, the Anarchist, and Doop. Even Zeitgeist, the leader, was killed! Also, the powers and mutants varied greatly. Zeitgeist had acidic vomit while Sluk had a face made of tentacles and lacked any real abilities to use in combat. The loveable green floating blob called Doop was nothing we've ever seen before too.

In addition, the team had an excellent dynamic like never before. These characters combined made a dysfunctional team with their outstanding personalities. For example, Zeitgeist was a complex and troubled leader. He continues to loathe the manifestation of his powers and the girl's face he ruined with it. Zeitgeist showed little remorse for the death of Sluk and preferred his team to look more "human" than mutant. U-Go Girl was the wild girl who had narcolepsy accompanying her teleportation powers. Tike Alicar was the rebel and new recruit of the team. Battering Ram, a large overgrown man with a skull structure similar to that of a ram, had issues about his role on the team. Gin Genie, like her name implies, relied on alcohol to increase her powers; thus, making her an alcoholic.

Essentially, this title was a satire on today's society. The team was orchestrated to maintain the attention of the public. An X-Force Café is unveiled during the issue also. The team's fatal mission required them to rescue a boy-band from terrorists. This boy-band had a striking resemblance to N'Sync. Throughout the issue, other subjects are parodied and even the characters are similar to pop culture icons.

Artist Michael Allred was also new to the X-Men titles, as well as Marvel. His style is unique in the industry as a whole. His work is similar to the classic styles of Jack Kirby and others yet maintains a modern pop feel. As apparent from the uniforms of X-Force, the two-toned suits reflected that retro look. Allred also illustrated a gruesome story of sex and outrageous violence. Allred's work is amazingly appealing and was one of numerous new styles used after the revamp.

Overall, Exit Wounds is a story like no other and deserves its place on the list of top X-Men stories of all time.
This entry written by Omar A. Safi

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/188/uxmen280.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/188/uxmen280.jpg" align=right alt="Uncanny X-Men #280 - Muir Island Saga"></a> #38: Muir Island Saga
Uncanny X-Men #278-280 & X-Factor (Vol. 1) #69-70
Written By: Chris Claremont, Fabian Nicieza, Peter David & Jim Lee
Art By: Paul Smith, Andy Kubert, Whilce Portacio, Kirk Jarvinen & Steven Butler

Occasionally, a story comes along that signals the end of an era...and thus the beginning of a new one. The Muir Island Saga punctuated an ending to the banner of the sense of darkness and separation that had flown over the X-Men and, indeed, all of the mutant titles for the years beforehand. The team was believed dead, and had used that status to go underground, striking at their enemies with force and severity...only to be subsequently scattered across the globe, separated from one another. The original students of Xavier had isolated themselves from the team and school, forming the new strike force of X-Factor. The younger students, the New Mutants, had adopted the more militant tutelage of Cable and just prior to this tale abandoned the school altogether to form X-Force. Looming over this darkness and separation was the Shadow King, a psychic villain who embodied fear, hatred and all of the negative thoughts and emotions of mankind...and who, in the guise of Amahl Farouk, first inspired Xavier to form a school and team that could combat such evil mutants and to inspire peace and respect between mutants and humanity. This is the tale that put an end to his threat, as well as a great deal many other things...yet in the team's tragic final victory, a new beginning was planted.

There's a subtle tension to this story, and many of the conflicts could be fittingly described as "shadow" conflicts. The X-Men must sneak on to Muir Island to confront their counterparts and former allies who had...only to be absorbed into his influence. Xavier must prevent the possessed Colossus from killing him and Stevie Hunter by leading him into the Danger Room, and plunging deep into his psyche to tear apart his "new" life as artist Peter Nicholas and return him to the life of an X-Man. And, having reunited with their former teacher, X-Factor must join with those who've broken free of the Shadow King's influence to hold off the combined forces of Moira MacTaggert's Muir Island mutants, their own teammates in the X-Men and the Shadow King himself. Every action is covert, all the struggles personal...until everything kicks into high gear with the explosion (for the first time, anyway) of Muir Island itself. And even then, in the climactic final battle between Xavier and the Shadow King, the essence of the struggle can easily be boiled down to Xavier putting his own personal dream against the nightmares that oppose it. Or since the Shadow King had taken Xavier's own estranged son Legion as his host, it could even be seen in a much simpler way as an abandoned son lashing out as his father makes a final desperate attempt to reach out to the child he had sacrificed for his own ideals and ambitions.

The very interesting storytelling tactic that Claremont and Nicieza use in the first part of the story is that while the conflicts are rather intimate and isolated to Muir Island and the devastated grounds of Xavier's school, the stakes of the story are global. The Shadow King is spreading his influence across the world, feeding humanity's own inherent tendencies towards violence, hatred and fear to create strife and discrimination...and in turn feeding off of those negative emotions to power himself. Xavier and his X-Men must in a sense defeat the abstract representation of everything they have worked to fight for years, lest it overpower the world and spread to the stars. And as we all know, high stakes make for good drama.

Peter David's low key epilogue is, in and of itself, noteworthy...featuring each of the X-Men dealing with the aftermath of what they've done and each asking the question of, "where do we go from here?" Xavier's introspective quest to save the psyche of a comatose Legion utilizes a great deal of dream imagery, foreshadowing such phenomenal tales as Silence: Psychic Rescue in Progress. Yet the humor and tenderness expressed between the characters as they attempt to recover merely enhances the fact that for all of their troubles, for all the separation and angst they had suffered over the past several years, these individuals are truly a family. An element that would dominate the books in the ensuing years.

The art used in the stories has a sense of progress all its own, and one that in hindsight could not have been all that intended. The first chapter of the story is illustrated by veteran X-Men artist Paul Smith, only to be contrasted by an early Andy Kubert (in a style more reminiscent of his first run on X-Men during the 90s than of his more evolved style on Origin and 1602) and Whilce Portacio, two artists who would each leave their own mark on the title in the decade to come. And if the story falls short in any way, it is somewhat in the art department...some confusing and rather rushed looking art at points hurts the narrative flow, but also adds to the sense of urgency and tension that this story wanted to establish.

Also to blame is the resolution of the tale. This in the end is a story about dreams, Xavier's versus the Shadow King's, love versus hate. With such high minded themes and abstract concepts playing in opposition to one another, one would think that the final confrontation would be more about those dreams. Yet it all boils down to rather standard superheroic fare, which while well done for what it was causes the story and its themes to stumble somewhat when they should be at their most powerful. Still, when all is said and done, the Muir Island Saga put an end to the Shadow King and the darkness he represented which had enveloped the books for so long. It brought Xavier back into the fold (at the expense, once again, of his ability to walk or engage more physically in the realization of his dream), regularized the original X-Men with the generation that followed, and brought about a great change in direction for both Uncanny X-Men, which now required the spin off title X-Men (pre Newness) to handle the expansion of characters, as well as X-Factor which flourished under the pen of Peter David.
This entry written by Jordan T. Maxwell

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/256/uxmen-2001a.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/256/uxmen-2001a.jpg" align=right alt="Uncanny X-Men 2001 Annual - Absolute Progeny"></a> #37: Absolute Progeny
Uncanny X-Men 2001 Annual & Uncanny X-Men #408-409
Written By: Joe Casey
Art By: Ashley Wood & Sean Phillips

With much attention on the New X-Men and X-Treme X-Men reboots, the X-Men's flagship title was left in the proverbial dark. Uncanny X-Men had the least amount of characters, and with the least "big gun" appeal. Archangel, Chamber, Iceman, Nightcrawler, and some new scaly prostitute character hardly comprised the most exciting cast for any X-Men storyarc. Moreover, scribe Joe Casey was on his way out after negative fan and editorial feedback. So what was a writer to do? Go out with a bang, of course.

Beginning in Uncanny X-Men 2001, with the conclusion in Uncanny X-Men #408-409 (Casey's final issues), Absolute Progeny opened many doors for X-Men stories that had previously been untapped, or at least not scribed to its utmost potential. Darker themes were the order of the day. Previously playing around with prostitution in Stacy X's introduction, Casey and X-fans were now ready for another social taboo -- drugs. But these were not like any "real life" drugs you could find on the street. In a brilliant interpretation of the social problem, Casey injects these "designer genes" drugs with the chemical ability to give regular humans -- or "flatscans" as they've come to be known in the context of homo superior -- the high of temporary mutations. And although these mutations differed from individual to individual, at times giving some very unpleasant changes, most "flatscans" just couldn't get enough of any new abilities/powers they gained.

In the world of the X-Men, Casey's concept of the designer gene drugs not only touched upon valid and relatable social issues such as drug addiction and peer pressure, but it also changed the way the mutant population would be viewed in the Marvel Universe canon. Although somewhat rushed without gradual change in its effects on the canon as a whole, slices of society were now envious of mutants, even to the point of adoration and wanting to become like them. Yes, the status quo of mutants radically changed, seemingly overnight, which caused many cries of inconsistency. But it was also a welcome refreshing change from the bigotry stories that had almost become cliche in the X-books.

Great plots aside, Absolute Progeny also notes the glorifying return of the once "lame" villain, The Vanisher. Once a second-rate teleporter, Casey transformed the character of The Vanisher into a true threat. Not so much in any physical sense. Although, his shedding of the laughable red and purple costume helped complement Casey's intended image. But more so because of the effects of his designer genes. He was now a big bump on the path to the dream of peaceful coexistence between humans and mutants, which was what catapulted his character to new heights.

But Casey didn't ignore the X-Men either. At the forefront of this storyarc Archangel, as multimillionaire Warren Worthington III, waged corporate war on The Vanisher's drug cartels -- a side to Archangel rarely ever seen in the past, if at all, but which seemed natural for the businessman in his character. The conflict of methods between Archangel and Wolverine was also a highlight of the storyarc, which emphasised the diversity of characters within the X-Men themselves. Not to mention the first inklings of a power struggle between the two pseudo-leaders of this particular team, Archangel and Nightcrawler. This does, however, repeatedly prove to be a point of confusion as to the leadership of the team, even to this day. Although, having the problem be addressed on the page, in canon, at least makes it count as valid conflict and development.

Overall, Absolute Progeny is an, well, absolute progeny of many elements in X-stories past. Aspects of the storyarc may not have been original in the X-books, as drugs and social idolatry of mutants had been ongoing themes of the satellite book, X-Statix. However, Casey's treatment was groundbreaking for a mainstream core X-title, along with its core characters, to deal with the subjects. So much so that future plots in New X-Men, such as the drug "Kick" in the Riot at Xavier's storyarc and the concept of publically open mutants in Mutant Town, are supposedly homages to Casey's short run by buddy Grant Morrison. No doubt, Absolute Progeny has opened many doors for other future stories in the annals of the X-books.
This entry written by Al Harahap

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/188/uxmen303.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/188/uxmen303.jpg" align=right alt="Uncanny X-Men #303 - Going Through the Motions"></a> #36: Going Through the Motions
Uncanny X-Men #303
Written By: Scott Lobdell
Art By: Richard Bennett

"Since I been hanging with you guys, I got to mix it up with Brood-things, Sentinels, Acolytes and everything. So how is it ya can save the world every morning, pre-wheaties...but when it comes to savin' one little girl... zip?!"

Jubilee asked the above question in this story, Going Through the Motions, which shows why the Legacy Virus started out as such a good story device. In this issue, little Illyana Rasputin dies of the then-new mutant plague, the Legacy Virus (so new, in fact, that it had yet to be named at this point). This story is about life and death, but not in the same way as most X-Men stories. This story is about the enemies you can't fight, the battles you can't win, and the cost of losing those battles.

Jubilee is really the focus of the story. She's our narrator, and it's through her eyes that we see the deterioration and demise of Illyana. More importantly, however, she is the voice of the helpless witness, the person who can't do anything but stand back and watch their loved one wither away.

This issue is powerful because it boils down the entire illness into a shorter time frame, presenting us with this story in a single issue. The processes involved in someone dying of a terminal disease are slow and painful, taking months or even years in the real world. But writer Scott Lobdell takes that whole ordeal and presents it as taking mere hours... not to be untrue to the reality of such a situation, but to magnify it, to present it in a format that is so sudden that we as readers are as unprepared for it as the characters. That theme is also prevalent in the story: no matter how well prepared you think you are, no matter how far ahead of time you know the blow is coming, it still knocks you out. There are some things you just can't prepare yourself for.

The entire range of reactions to tragedy and loss are presented here. Jubilee is the casual observer, who is affected no matter how hard they try not to be. The Professor is the father figure (Jubilee calls him "the father of all mutants"), the one who cannot bear to lose either the child or the battle. Moira is the doctor, the one who is unable to arrest the progress of the disease, and who must ultimately resign herself to that inability. Kitty is the friend, the one who both falls apart and tries to be strong enough to know when it's time to let go. And finally there is Illyana's older brother, Peter, who only arrives at the very end of the issue, once Illyana has already passed away. His reaction is the other extreme from Kitty's; as his attempts to be strong, to not fall apart, cause him to undergo an internal collapse that leaves him cut off, lost.

This issue is great not only for the powerful and surprisingly realistic way in which it portrays illness, death and the grief that follows them, but also for the groundwork it laid for future stories. Everything that Colossus did after this issue... EVERYTHING... was affected by this story. The character would never escape the pain this brought him, just as many real people can never escape the pain of losing someone close to them. That pain would be the driving force behind all his subsequent storylines, right up to and including his demise. It's a strong, moving story that provided one character with years of strong character motivation, and provided another with a memorable send-off.
This entry written by Joel Phillips.

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/172/dpool-65.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/172/dpool-65.jpg" align=right alt="Deadpool #65 - Healing Factor"></a> #35: Healing Factor
Deadpool (Vol. 2) #65-69
Written By: Gail Simone
Art By: UDON

Yes, believe it or not, a Deadpool story beat out countless other standby's of the X-canon to be named one of the Forty Greatest of all time. That alone should tell you how good the Healing Factor arc was.

In the July, 2002, ComiX-Fan review of Deadpool #69, we said something that pretty much wraps up what made this story so special: "Every once in a great while, there comes a truly rare comic book. This is the kind of book that packs so much in story-wise that it seems like it's double-sized... but it still manages to tell the story completely. This is the kind of book where the art tells the story so well that you think you're watching it on TV. This is the kind of book that, when you finally get to the end, you stare at the last couple of pages for a few seconds. You think to yourself... 'Wow....' Then you go back and read it again."

Deadpool was in search of direction when Gail Simone and UDON Studios took it over, so this new creative team opted to remove Wade Wilson from the heavy X-continuity he'd been mired in, to instead focus on his core character: a deranged mercenary who took excessive joy from causing violence. Gone were the hard-nosed gritty action and Weapon X tie-in's... Simone and UDON envisioned something closer to the title's original vision - a fun but very twisted romp through a mercenary's life in the honestly ridiculous Marvel Universe. The creative team gave us pure Wade Wilson... arguably the best, funniest, most compelling, and most entertaining Wade Wilson we'd ever seen.

But what made Healing Factor a contender for this list was the fact that it wasn't just hilarious comedy... it was a dramatic and compelling story of a man losing his mind. The readers knew that these were the last days for Deadpool, that something terrible was going to happen to him by the arc's end... and Simone and UDON perfectly mingled those grim undertones with the book's twisted humor. Through this arc, the character of Deadpool was made realistic... they made us really care about him... because he wasn't just some tough-as-nails merc: he was a human. We saw him at his best and at his worst. We saw him killing for money, and we saw him showing empathy for others. We saw him playing cruel jokes on the innocent, and we saw him saving the innocent at the cost of his own life.

This arc had real moments, the kind that you remember for years after you read the story: our hero accidentally killing four crime-lords... a miniaturized Rhino attached to a key-chain... Deadpool himself riding a motor-scooter... and possibly the best moment of all, the final amazingly climactic showdown between Deadpool and the man who destroyed him: the Black Swan.

Actually, no, I take it back. The best moment of all was when Wade asked Rhino, "Happy Trail or Fun Ball?"

Regardless, Healing Factor was a story that could make you laugh, and make you cry. It was a hilarious comedy and a moving tragedy. Gail Simone and UDON brought to Deadpool a level of story depth and artistic excellence that the title had never seen before. This is the kind of arc that is intelligent enough for the experienced reader but accessible enough for the newbie... I've seen several former non-comics-readers converted by these five issues of Deadpool.
This entry written by Jim Lemoine

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/188/uxmen183.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/188/uxmen183.jpg" align=right alt="Uncanny X-Men #183 - He'll Never Make Me Cry"></a> #34: He'll Never Make Me Cry
Uncanny X-Men #183
Written By: Chris Claremont
Art By: John Romita Jr.

He'll Never Make Me Cry is about what happens when a relationship ends even when nobody's feelings have really changed. Usually in comic books relationships only end one of two ways: either the characters are stuck in a perpetual cycle of break-ups and make-ups (i.e. Gambit and Rogue), or the relationships are quickly, and often sloppily, cast aside by writers that don't want to deal with them anymore. Neither is the case here.

First, some set up: during the Secret Wars crossover, Colossus' life was saved by an alien healer woman. For whatever reason, Peter decided that he was in love with her, and thus not in love with his then girlfriend, Kitty Pryde. In this issue, after returning home, Peter finally breaks the news to Kitty and ends their relationship.

What makes the issue so good is that all the reactions feel so real. Kitty is devastated by the break-up, as we would expect a young girl to be, but she is also a strong enough person that she controls her emotions... at least while in front of Peter. On the other side of the break-up is Peter, who clearly still loves Kitty despite what he has just done.

Much of what Peter is going through would probably be missed were it not for Logan, who takes Peter out on the town to tell him what a jackass he's being. Though the presence of the more rational Kurt prevents him from saying it outright, Logan is still surprisingly upfront with Peter about his displeasure with the way the situation was handled. And what is Peter's response? Peter's response is to drink too much and pick a fight with another bar patron: the Juggernaut. Logan suggests Peter isn't thinking straight, and we have no problem agreeing with him.

Claremont's true appreciation and, yes, affection for these characters really shines through in this issue. And there would be no quick reversals on this one: Claremont continued to use both Peter and Kitty, together but separate, the wounds still apparent, if not open.

He'll Never Make Me Cry is a wonderful story because of the respect it has for its characters and the reality of the experiences they have been through. Claremont remains true to that, and true to them, and the result is one of the best depictions of an ending relationship ever offered in the pages of a comic book.
This entry written by Joel Phillips

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/188/uxmen200.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/188/uxmen200.jpg" align=right alt="Uncanny X-Men #200 - Trial of Magneto"></a> #33: Trial of Magneto
Uncanny X-Men #200
Written by: Chris Claremont
Art by: John Romita, Jr.

The setting is Paris. Magneto has finally been captured and is to be tried for his many atrocities against humanity. His two lifetime friends and sometimes enemies, Gabrielle Haller and Professor Charles Xavier are his defense. The X-Men of course pop in from their sojourn to Asgard and provide extra support. To add to the mayhem, Baron Wolfgang Von Strucker's twin offspring, Fenris, (who blame Magneto for their father's death), are planning on assassinating Magneto. Another vastly important sidebar is that Professor Xavier's heart has been rapidly deteriorating. At the end, Charles Xavier is whisked away by his love Lilandra (who at the time was an unseated Empress) and the Starjammers to aid in his ailing health, but before he leaves, he makes Magneto promise to take his place as the headmaster of the school.

What is so masterful about this issue is that this represents Chris Claremont at his best. Leaving the story aside, he showed how to self-contain a high level plot with exquisite characterization. What adds to the depth of this issue is the real world type of conversational interactions that takes place, which is complemented by some well placed witty banter as opposed to the banter being the main vehicle of interaction that is somewhat prevalent today in his writing. There are no holes in this issue whatsoever. No plot points or dialogue are rushed through, glossed over, or drawn out. The balance is perfect.

This issue also in some ways represents part one of three in Magneto's journey with himself and the Dream (see All New, All Different....Here We Go Again & Crossroads). Chris Claremont by this time had already established Magneto as one of the noblest and most three-dimensional "villains" in the comic book industry. Trial of Magneto with the help of John Romita, Jr. portrayed Magneto as a human soul pitting his inner opinions with his need to now do what is right. The panel at the end of the issue depicting a crouching and crying Magneto promising to uphold his vow to Xavier is very powerful.

The problem is sometimes events that transpire later taint a great work. Unfortunately the 1990's regressed Magneto into a 2-D human hating monger. Magneto's progression was halted thus negating the significance of this issue. If Chris Claremont had stayed on with the X-Men, killed off Xavier, and permanently installed Magneto as the headmaster as he planned to do, would this issue be more memorable? Maybe. However, in the end, this issue can and has stood as a masterpiece in its own right.
This entry written by Tan K.

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/188/uxmen294.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/188/uxmen294.jpg" align=right alt="Uncanny X-Men #294 - The X-Cutioner's Song"></a> #32: The X-Cutioner's Song
Uncanny X-Men #294-297, X-Men (Vol. 2) #14-16, X-Factor (Vol. 1) #84-86 & X-Force #16-18
Written By: Scott Lobdell, Fabian Nicieza & Peter David
Art By: Greg Capullo, Andy Kubert, Jae Lee & Brandon Peterson

The X-Cutioner's Song illustrates a crossover of epic proportions. At this time, the various teams of mutants were separate and divided. X-Factor was sponsored by the government while X-Force was a rogue group. Although, each group believes in the dream of Professor Xavier, to unite humans and mutants peacefully. An attack on their headmaster is enough to unite the teams to avenge their mentor.

This crossover can be confusing, as most are, but a milestone in X-Men history. The crossover essentially is Stryfe's bid to avenge himself and exact revenge on the ones who have made his life miserable, particularly Scott Summers and Jean Grey, who he believes to be his biological parents. Stryfe is actually Cable's clone, kidnapped by Apocalypse who believed him to be the original. Apocalypse raises Stryfe and becomes Cable's rival and opponent in the future they are from. Moreover, Apocalypse traveled to the pasat to infect Nathan Summers, the child of Scott and Jean, with the techno-organic virus. In the future, Nathan learned to use his telekinetic powers to halt the spread of the virus; consequently, he could never reach his full potential. Stryfe was an uninfected clone and obtained more power than Cable.

The plot is that Stryfe, posing as Cable, shoots Prof. X during a speech and the teams are now after him. The bullet is carrying the tecno-organic virus. Xavier is then taken to the hospital and is alive but in critical condition.

There truly are some great moments in here, as would be when the teams align. X-Factor #84 was quite enjoyable. Peter David maintains a comedic quality during this crossover and the character interactions are fun. The battle between X-Factor and X-Force was excellent also. Apocalypse's tribulations during this story are unforgettable. He is betrayed by Stryfe, his adopted son, and the Dark Riders, his henchmen. The characterization was done excellently, like when he cured Xavier to battle alongside the X-Men. Archangel's support for Apocalypse was interesting. Also, his decision to not kill Apocalypse near death gave him some closure and enabled him to control his wings. Just seeing Apocalypse and the X-Men fight together was exciting. The trio of Bishop, Wolverine, and Cable was great and a fanboy's dream. Scott and Jean's struggle within the lunar base was moving.

The final battle of the Summers family versus Stryfe was my favorite part. Scott mentions that they sacrificed Nathan twice, which was touching. Again, the battle itself was fun to see, with Stryfe using destructive powers and Havok pitching in.

I also thought Stryfe was interesting. He might not be the most original villain but his differences, similarities, and history to Cable create a nice dynamic.

The X-Cutioner's Song leaves a lasting impression on the X-Men universe. Stryfe leaves the X-Men one last gift before being defeated and that is the Legacy Virus. The container exchanged for Scott and Jean's capture was seemingly empty; yet, it contained the Legacy Virus, becoming a problem for years to come. As mentioned before, Archangel was able to control his wings after confronting Apocalypse.

The artistic contributions were also amazing. Early work of many now famous artists can be seen in this crossover. Andy Kubert (1602, Origin), Jae Lee (Sentry), and Greg Capullo (Spawn) all did outstanding jobs particularly. The renditions of Cable by Kubert and Capullo were definitive and one of the best. Lee's X-Factor had his signature style while depicting the comedy and battle. Capullo's fight scene was incredibly detailed and gritty.

The X-Cutioner's Song is a story not to miss, clearing up the Summers family (somewhat) and introducing new threats.

Oh yeah, I liked those collectors' cards that were inserted in the polybags too ;).
This entry written by Omar A. Safi

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<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/media/174/exiles-08.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/4images/data/thumbnails/174/exiles-08.jpg" align=right alt="Exiles #8 - A World Apart"></a> #31: A World Apart
Exiles #8-10
Written By: Judd Winick
Art By: Mike McKone

I had the distinct pleasure of reviewing these three issues of Exiles for ComiX-Fan back when they first came out, in February and March of 2002. Here are a few things that I had to say about this arc back then.

On Exiles #8: "In this issue, as a writer, Judd Winick calls to mind folks like Alan Moore and Jim Shooter. As an artist, Mike McKone is comparable to Alan Davis and Bryan Hitch."

On Exiles #9: "Exiles is the best old-school superhero comic book being produced today."

And on Exiles #10: "... few comics have managed to haunt me like Uncanny X-Men #137 (the original death of Phoenix) did... and now, Exiles #10."

Exiles was a book that was never supposed to last. Relative Marvel newcomers Judd Winick (writer) and Mike McKone (penciller) had created a series featuring one mostly-ignored B-list character leading a bunch of other little-known characters (ranging from the brand new to the D and E lists!) through a neverending cycle of What If... scenarios. No ties to modern continuity, no regular X-Men guest appearances, no hot characters, no stable environment, and somewhat low-profile creators: all of this led to abyssmal expectations for the series. And yet, for the first seven issues of its existence, Exiles managed to stay in print by featuring impressive scripts and solid art. But nothing that we'd seen in those seven issues, as decent as they were, could have prepared us for A World Apart.

The Exiles had been to some twisted alternate Earths before, but this one took the cake: a world where the Skrulls had invaded before there were any superheroes to stop them, where Earth was no more than a slave planet and superheroes no more than gladiatorial entertainment. From the beginning, Winick and McKone set a darker tone: the usually well-adjusted and happy-go-lucky Exiles were shown as captives, desperate for release from their long imprisonment and slowly losing their sanity. The fact that we all knew that one of the Exiles wouldn't be making it through this one made the atmosphere all the more suspenseful and tense.

We were treated to powerful scenes of our heroes battling hopelessness, facing betrayal, and struggling to hold on to their minds. Winick gave us some of the most moving and realistic dramatic dialog you could find in the graphic medium at the time. McKone gave us art that spoke volumes in believability and raw emotion. The superhero arena had the feeling of a Holocaust prison camp, and Blink and Morph's attempts to rescue the team called to mind images of Custer hopelessly making his last stand.

In the end, the Skrulls were indeed driven off of Earth... but only because of the imminent arrival of the planet-devouring Galactus. In an amazing action-packed yet thoughtful battle scene involving many of the greatest heroes of any universe, Galactus was defeated... but at the cost of an Exile. John Proudstar, the tragic Exile Thunderbird, fell in final heroic battle saving the planet and all of its inhabitants. Proudstar's injuries from defeating Galactus (Galactus, mind you!) left him comatose and near death... and he was left behind when the Exiles were instantly teleported to their next alternate dimension. This would have been emotional enough as it was... but add to this the fact that Nocturne had just announced her pregnancy with Proudstar's child, and you're left with an extremely memorable tear-jerker.

A World Apart had absolutely no impact on standard X-continuity, nor did it feature glow-in-the-dark radioactive covers or Wolverine guest appearances. Instead, it was a true epic (comparable to the great epics we've seen from the Avengers series) and a masterpiece of Marvel storytelling. It made you care about the characters in a very realistic way, by showing their all-too human sides and proving to us that the good guys don't always win the day. It was the very rare kind of story that left you dying for the next issue, the kind that made you feel like the characters were your close friends.

And I still miss John Proudstar.
This entry written by Jim Lemoine

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Blademaster
Sep 1, 2003, 02:17 pm
Wow great article/s.

Looking forward to the rest of this.

And keep up the good work :)

Pete
Sep 1, 2003, 02:23 pm
Good list so far! X-Cutioners song came out here really early into my comic book reading, it was one of the things that got me hooked on the X-men. They don;t make 'em like that anymore.

Just one question, how old was Kitty meant to be when Colossus broke up with her? I've got an issue from around the time the X-men were fighting the Neo where she says she's barely sixteen! :O

Jon Hancock
Sep 1, 2003, 02:36 pm
let the speculation begin. will dp saga make the top ten???? what will be number one???
is fatal attractions going to get there so as to appease the wolvie fans

NicholasRogue
Sep 1, 2003, 03:00 pm
Great review guys, I'm so glad you have "Going through the Motions" in here, its one of my all time favorite X-Men stories, "The Ties that Bind also wonderful issue" The X-Cutioner's Song and the Muir Island Saga were good cross overs as well. "He'll never make me cry and "The Trial of Magneto" are classics as well.

Scott Williams
Sep 1, 2003, 04:06 pm
Splendid choices. I'm proud to say I own quite a few of these (Healing Factor, A World Apart, Exit Wounds, Ties that Bind - sorta,) One can hardly fault any of these choices.

Well done, all. I'll follow this series with great interest.

I'd say that A World Apart, in particular, should be noted. I'd name it the greatest storyarc of that particular year.

Now... when can I expect "Age of Apocalypse" and "Onslaught"?!

Tan K.
Sep 1, 2003, 06:43 pm
Originally posted by Jonberg
let the speculation begin. will dp saga make the top ten???? what will be number one???
is fatal attractions going to get there so as to appease the wolvie fans


Originally posted by Scott Williams

Now... when can I expect &quot;Age of Apocalypse&quot; and &quot;Onslaught&quot;?!

Whoever said Dark Phoenix, AoA, or Onslaught made the list?

Scott Williams
Sep 1, 2003, 06:48 pm
Well Onslaught CLEARLY did, on account of how AWESOME it was!!

I severely doubt there's any call for Dark Phoenix in there. It's so highly overrated.

:D

Jesse Baer
Sep 1, 2003, 07:33 pm
This is a GREAT article, one of my favorites. I like buying back issues of X-Men, and I've gotten most of the first appearances and deaths, so I've been looking at top lists from places like Wizard and other threads to get ideas for which comics I want to buy next. I love these types of threads, and it's nice that we get such detailed explanations. Thanks for not making us wait that long, one a week isn't that bad.

Kevin Sutton
Sep 1, 2003, 09:04 pm
Very good list.

John Gleason
Sep 1, 2003, 09:12 pm
Great list I can't wait to see #!. I never read those issues of Exiles though, but I think I will be picking them up soon.

Anthony Lucynski
Sep 1, 2003, 09:33 pm
If Gail Simone's healing factor made the list, I sure hope Deadpool #11 (the best damn deadpool issue to ever come out, I dont care what anybody says) is on there ;)

What? I'm an administrator of this site and I dont know what the final list is?

Those sneaky :bleep:

Anthony L

Scott Williams
Sep 1, 2003, 10:01 pm
Originally posted by Anthony Lucynski
If Gail Simone's healing factor made the list, I sure hope Deadpool #11 (the best damn deadpool issue to ever come out, I dont care what anybody says) is on there ;)


Agreed. If any Deadpool stores are to follow on this list (and God willing, there will be Dead Reckoning, after all, they've got to fill out 40 stories somehow!) this ought to be included.

xgene
Sep 2, 2003, 02:40 am
Great way to celebrate the X-titles 40th anniversary. Can't wait to find out the rest of the top 40!

GuyX
Sep 2, 2003, 02:55 am
Excellent stuff guys, good choices.

I'm so glad "A World Apart" made the list. Great story.

Chris Wilson
Sep 2, 2003, 03:34 am
Hmm... So AoA (plus or minus Legion Quest) and Fatal Attractions are the only 90's stories that might get the top 10; I'd be utterly suprised to see anything else from the lost decade up there. This is all speculation but I'm feeling like Proteus Saga, Days of Future Past, E is for Extinction (plus or minus Imperial), and Dark Phoenix Saga are definitely in the top 10. And although I've never read it, I'm sure Gold Loves Man Kills is up there too.

If that Onslaught crap is anywhere on this list, I promise to vomit on my keyboard.

Heh :cool:

-Chris

Wolverine
Sep 2, 2003, 04:51 am
I was suprised that the Uncanny Annual is on the list. I remeber the bashing that alot of people gave it at the time.
I wonder if X-men Rubicon will make the list? well surely if Exiles can then it definitly will

Zachary J. Morrison
Sep 2, 2003, 05:30 am
Well done, all. My all-time favorites for Part 1, I think, has to be "The Ties that Bind" and "Going Through the Motions". I can't wait to see what's coming next week. I wonder if any of the Dark Phoenix Saga issues will make the list for Part 2 possibly...Hmm...I guess I'll have to wait and see.

Wolverine
Sep 2, 2003, 06:07 am
Bet you that at least 1 Dark Phoenix issue or the entire storyline will be in the top 10 and

PinkShiro
Sep 2, 2003, 07:41 am
Originally posted by Sneakydub
Hmm... So AoA (plus or minus Legion Quest) and Fatal Attractions are the only 90's stories that might get the top 10; I'd be utterly suprised to see anything else from the lost decade up there. This is all speculation but I'm feeling like Proteus Saga, Days of Future Past, E is for Extinction (plus or minus Imperial), and Dark Phoenix Saga are definitely in the top 10. And although I've never read it, I'm sure Gold Loves Man Kills is up there too.

If that Onslaught crap is anywhere on this list, I promise to vomit on my keyboard.

Heh :cool:

-Chris

so far, if I had to rate what we've got so far in the 00's against the 90's stuff, the 90's stuff would win by a mile....

Gat0r-ManX
Sep 2, 2003, 09:16 am
wohoo!! exiles and Simone's deadpool kik ass!!

Stormy
Sep 2, 2003, 09:16 am
The end of the Muir Island Saga was the first X-men comic I ever read, and I have fond remembrances of it. Of the other 9, I've only read X-Cutioner's and the Exiles arc, both of which are fantastic. I actually would have thougt that X-cutioner's would place higher on the list, so I wonder what's in store for the top 30...

I'm hoping to see X-factor 87 on this list. And I'm betting AoA is #1.

Cyke82
Sep 2, 2003, 10:58 am
I agree about the X-Cutioner's Song. The crossovers in general might not have been a good idea sometimes, but that one was really good. As for the top 3, I'm guessing: 3. Age of Apocalypse 2. Days of Future Past 1. Dark Phoenix (the whole storyline, or Uncanny 137)

Marty P
Sep 2, 2003, 11:22 am
Originally posted by Scott Williams


I severely doubt there's any call for Dark Phoenix in there. It's so highly overrated.

:D

I really don't agree withyou here (and I'm NOT a big Jean fan!).

The story is/was BRILLIANT.

The only thing that ruined it was Jean's resurection and all the crap that followed. But the death was damn good written.
I read the story when I allready knew all the crap that came after it and that Jean was alive and kicking, and it still left a tear in my eye when I read the end.....

My guess for the number 1 spot is either AoA (shows you what great stories you get when you give the writers enough freedom, and still keeping it "in continuity") or Days of Future Past (the story that REALLY made me an X-fan).

I must say that all the issues so far, I like a lot as well.

This is fun reading. Great idea guys!!!!!:cool:

Pete
Sep 2, 2003, 11:41 am
whoever said they'd vomit if Onslaught made the list, I don;t know if you were joking/being sarcastic, but I genuinely didn't like that storyline. The part with Xavier being the traitor Bishop had come back in time to stop just felt too contrived. Especially as 'traitor' implies a more insidious plot than Xavier's inadvertent corruption.


Plus the whole impact of the story was massively lessened when all the fallenheroes turned up safe and sound 5 minutes later.

Actually while I'm on that, one thing that really annoys me about the whole mutants standing in the marvel universe is the way the other hero teams that know the X-men are good guys don't just tel the rest of the world to leave them alone.


Ok rant over :p

Chris Wilson
Sep 2, 2003, 01:04 pm
No, no, no, Onslaught sucked my grandmother's butt! I wasn't being sarcatic at all. If anything from that, or the Twelve, or Operation Zero Tolerance, or etc. etc. is at all on this list, I will puke.

However if the powers that be would like to put the High Evolutionary story (where everyone loses their powers for a week or so), on the list, be my guest ;)

-Chris

dredweezul
Sep 2, 2003, 01:09 pm
Just about anything written by Claremont works for me. Sure he wrote some stinkers but he wrote most of the good ones too.:)

FreakyFlyBry
Sep 2, 2003, 01:45 pm
Great list, as expected!

I have a feeling that there'll be plenty of Claremont-Byrne stories in the top 10, including Dark Phoenix and Days of Future Past.

TracyNichols
Sep 2, 2003, 02:03 pm
Originally posted by Pete
Just one question, how old was Kitty meant to be when Colossus broke up with her? I've got an issue from around the time the X-men were fighting the Neo where she says she's barely sixteen! :O

I think she was about 14. Colossus in that same issue remarked that he was "nearly 20". Not that bad of an age difference, but enough to be a bit controversial among some readers at the time.

It's a good list so far, although I think X-Cutioner's Song and the Muir Island Saga should be a bit closer to the top. If these two storylines are down here, can't wait to see what the rest of the list is. I'm thinking that the ones included at least will be (in no particular order): Fatal Attractions, the Onslaught saga (like it or hate it, you can't deny the impact that story had on the Marvel universe), Dark Phoenix (as much as I detest Jean, that is one of the most famous X-Men stories that affected the team and the title for years afterward), E is for Extinction, Inferno, Fall of the Mutants, and Search for Cyclops.

Martin Dudek
Sep 2, 2003, 02:08 pm
Can't wait to see when/if OZT makes the list!

Storm_1118
Sep 2, 2003, 03:00 pm
I don't know about you guys, but I REALLY loved Onslaught and I do hope it makes the list! I thought the crossover was great and it was so cool to see all my favorite characters together battling a super powerful villain...that is one of them! I thought it was great. This list so far is great, much better than any Wizard list I've seen. I can't wait till next week! Made my day!

Tan K.
Sep 2, 2003, 03:15 pm
Originally posted by Storm_1118
This list so far is great, much better than any Wizard list I've seen.

That's not hard to accomplish.

harlekein
Sep 2, 2003, 03:30 pm
Very nice list and I can't help but agree. My guess for the #1? Probably the Dark Phoenix Saga or something around that time. I'm just guessing for a Claremont story to take the #1. I was surprised to not yet see the epilogue issue to the X-Cutioners Song (With some real good dialogue between Warren and Beast as well as Jubes and Chuck), I certainly hope it makes the list.

GuyX
Sep 2, 2003, 04:12 pm
I hope AoA is high up there...it's what brought me into comics and was a great experiment.

And guys, if you need any AoA info, I know more about it then anyone in their right ming should know about a comic book saga. Just ask ;)

Scott Williams
Sep 2, 2003, 04:15 pm
I was seriously joking when I said Dark Phoenix saga shouldn't be on there. The truth is that if it ain't #1, this list wasn't worth making.

The Fury
Sep 2, 2003, 04:32 pm
Great job on the list. Though I hate "X-Cutioner's Song", any list of great X-stories that includes "A World Apart" and "Exit Wounds" deserves praise.

Chris Wilson
Sep 2, 2003, 05:07 pm
In terms of impact on the team, the only other story that might beat out Dark Phoenix, I think, would be Giant Size X-Men #1. Not that it was a decidedly great story, but the origins and first appearances of Storm, Collossus, Nightcrawler, plus the introduction of Wolverine to the team all have to count for something.

And is the epilogue to X-Cutioner's Song counted with that story line or can it still contend for a higher spot on the list by itself?

-Chris

Joel Phillips
Sep 2, 2003, 05:29 pm
Just so everyone is aware, the primary criteria for this list was story quality, plain and simple. Influence was obviously considered as well, but don't expect a lot of first appearances or similar token milestones to make the list solely by virtue of the first appearance.

Jim Lemoine
Sep 2, 2003, 06:06 pm
Joel just beat me to it... ditto. A story like, say, Giant-Size X-Men #1 won't be on the list just because it had a lot of first appearances. If it makes it onto our list, it's because of the quality of the story, characterization, and art.

Tan K.
Sep 2, 2003, 06:23 pm
Really? I used partial and total nudity for one of my criteria.

xmanson2.0
Sep 2, 2003, 06:44 pm
Originally posted by dredweezul
Just about anything written by Claremont works for me. Sure he wrote some stinkers but he wrote most of the good ones too.:)

Agreed. And Uncanny #275 must be in this list.it's probably my favorite comic of all time.....when Magneto kills Zaladane.......what a powerful scene.......

kiyotee
Sep 2, 2003, 06:50 pm
great list so far. that first issue Gail and Udon did for deadpool is the only one on that arc I'm missing because the rumours abot how great it was was one of the things that brought me back to comics.

The other would be the exiles. and I do love my exiles dearly. World apart was made even better if you include the hulk issue that fleshed John out so wel, then follow it up with the issue where TJ reflects on everything that's happened and her relationship with John you get a real powerful read.

But then I may be biased.

Wolverine
Sep 2, 2003, 06:54 pm
Originally posted by Tan K.


That's not hard to accomplish.
Ithought what was in Wizard 0 wasn't that bad

Jordan T. Maxwell
Sep 2, 2003, 06:54 pm
Originally posted by Tan K.
Really? I used partial and total nudity for one of my criteria.

You too? No wonder Joel keeps shooting down my story write ups! ;)

Pete
Sep 2, 2003, 07:31 pm
Originally posted by TracyNichols


I think she was about 14. Colossus in that same issue remarked that he was &quot;nearly 20&quot;. Not that bad of an age difference, but enough to be a bit controversial among some readers at the time.

.

Really? I'm 20 and if one of my mates was to start going out with a 14 year old, there would be serious questions asked.

Sam U Rye
Sep 2, 2003, 09:55 pm
There was a really great moment in "The Ties That Bind" that needs to be mentioned.
You mentioned the letter he wrote to Jean. He also writes a letter to Jubilee saying he is going away to deal with some stuff (aftermath of having the adamantium ripped from him), and leaves her his hat. He doesn't exactly pour his heart out, and he does skirt some issues, but writing a letter is still a very personal thing, and this is a big deal for someone like Logan.
Then we come to the letter he writes to Charles. The readers all expect another serious letter. Perhaps one where he expresses his gratitude, and an explanation about what he is going through and why he has to leave.
Charles open the letter and it reads:
"Lighten up Chuck" :rofl:
Charles busts a gut laughing, and I did too, for a good long while. One of the best endings I've read. It was a very feel good issue.

Tan K.
Sep 2, 2003, 10:04 pm
Originally posted by Wolverine

Ithought what was in Wizard 0 wasn't that bad

You're right. It wasn't bad. As a matter of fact, I agreed with most of it. But if a monkey types long enough....


Originally posted by Jordan T. Maxwell


You too? No wonder Joel keeps shooting down my story write ups! ;)

Cool how 25-30 are all Genosha and Inferno issues! Nude teleporting and nude goblin queens rule!

number1958
Sep 2, 2003, 10:52 pm
Originally posted by TracyNichols


I think she was about 14. Colossus in that same issue remarked that he was &quot;nearly 20&quot;. Not that bad of an age difference, but enough to be a bit controversial among some readers at the time.


That sounds about right, she was 13 1/2 when she joined the X-Men. I recently heard (probably on these boards) that they broke up because Jim Shooter didn't like the age gap. Their relationship would be illegal in certain states/countries if it was sexual (but it wasn't).

Scott Williams
Sep 2, 2003, 11:07 pm
There are a couple stories I wish I'd been around to nominate. "Dead Reckoning" being one of them (Fingers crossed that it'll make the list anyhow.)

Another, which I'm positive won't get a mention, was the B-Story to "Classic X-Men #1," (apologies, but I can't recall the title, though I'll find it out asap,) which was a terrific insight into how the team was adjusting to their new dynamic after Giant Size #1. Particularly good characterization of The Original X-Men (and Havok and Polaris) and, well, pretty much everyone. I've always been a sucker for those "After the big battle" type stories, and that one.

A further story which is of note but should definitely not be in the top 40, but I'd just like to recall, was one of the stories from Amazing Adult Fantasy #14, "The Man in the Sky." In the issue before Spider-Man first appeared, (and thus way before X-Men #1,) Stan Lee layed out the blueprint for his mutants. In this 5-page story, we meet Tad Carter, whose father was a nuclear scientist. The radiation altered his genes, and he became one of the first of a new kind - a mutant! He essentially had the powers of Jean Grey, (telepathy/telekinesis) but he tried to show them off for his high school friends, and they bullied him. Then, he was rescued by a mystery man (who looked suspisciously like Prof. X, but wrinklier,) who contacted him telepathically, and used his mutant power to bring Tad Carter to him - where they would wait for mankind to be more accepting of their kind. It essentially was the first look at Stan Lee's idea for mutants (strange power, prejudice, a world that hates and fears them,) and has been forgotten by time. Though the most notable thing about it is the "Mutant prototype," it is in itself a fine story.

TracyNichols
Sep 3, 2003, 12:35 am
Really? I'm 20 and if one of my mates was to start going out with a 14 year old, there would be serious questions asked.

Well, it may have worked. When he was 26, she would have been 20, so maybe it would be okay. But yeah, I do know some people would have issues with it.

That sounds about right, she was 13 1/2 when she joined the X-Men. I recently heard (probably on these boards) that they broke up because Jim Shooter didn't like the age gap. Their relationship would be illegal in certain states/countries if it was sexual (but it wasn't).

I don't doubt the Jim Shooter thing, since he had a habit of "shooting" (pun intended) a lot of stuff down during his reign at Marvel. A lot of people didn't like the age gap. I will admit that I probaly would've been a bigger fan of the relationship if Kitty where just a year older.

But in some states, it don't matter if it wasn't sexual...IRL, if Peter were going out with Kitty and someone took issue with it, it'd be grounds for Petey's butt to land in jail :)

Plasma Charge
Sep 3, 2003, 12:44 am
Fantastic feature story, I must say! I really like the choices you guys have made, and I'm really happy to see "The Ties That Bind" on the list! Nice job, everyone. :cool:

David Santee
Sep 3, 2003, 12:46 am
"He'll Never Make Me Cry" Only #34? Gah. That is a top ten story. It's MY favorite book. In this era of 6-book story arcs, we may not see the quality of storytelling that UXM 183 had.

I also agree with Scott an hope that a few of the b-stories from Classic X-men make the list. Much better than Onslaught.

Jordan T. Maxwell
Sep 3, 2003, 01:20 am
Originally posted by Sam U Rye
There was a really great moment in &quot;The Ties That Bind&quot; that needs to be mentioned.
You mentioned the letter he wrote to Jean. He also writes a letter to Jubilee saying he is going away to deal with some stuff (aftermath of having the adamantium ripped from him), and leaves her his hat. He doesn't exactly pour his heart out, and he does skirt some issues, but writing a letter is still a very personal thing, and this is a big deal for someone like Logan.
Then we come to the letter he writes to Charles. The readers all expect another serious letter. Perhaps one where he expresses his gratitude, and an explanation about what he is going through and why he has to leave.
Charles open the letter and it reads:
&quot;Lighten up Chuck&quot; :rofl:
Charles busts a gut laughing, and I did too, for a good long while. One of the best endings I've read. It was a very feel good issue.

Actually, the Jubilee moment wasn't in "The Ties That Bind," but closed out Wolverine #75 (part of the Fatal Attractions arc, as if most of ya didn't know). As for that scene and/or issue's inclusion on the list...well, there's still three weeks to go...;)

Ain't i a stinka?

Sam U Rye
Sep 3, 2003, 01:34 am
Sorry about that. Haven't read since it came out (shame on me:p ). Just got caught up in Logans letter writing saga. Charlie's letter was in 'Ties That Bind' though, right? Still one of the funniest things I've read in an X-comic.

TracyNichols
Sep 3, 2003, 01:30 pm
Yes, that letter was at the very end of Ties That Bind. Xavier is in his office brooding after Scott and Jean leave on their honeymoon, and he finds the note.

And I can't believe I left the Phalanx Covenant off my list! Shame on me!

thewrite1
Sep 3, 2003, 05:20 pm
Originally posted by SmashOgre
&quot;He'll Never Make Me Cry&quot; Only #34? Gah. That is a top ten story. It's MY favorite book. In this era of 6-book story arcs, we may not see the quality of storytelling that UXM 183 had.

My collection of Essential X-Men only goes up to issue 179. I've heard before on this site that 183 is an excellent issue, but what are the chances of me getting a hold of it? Any issue with Piotr, Logan and Kurt makes me happy. Sigh.

I also agree with Scott an hope that a few of the b-stories from Classic X-men make the list. Much better than Onslaught.

I don't know if they were some of the best stories, but I certainly love to read them over again. The first one dealing with the introduction of all these new X-Men was very well done.

Marty P
Sep 3, 2003, 05:41 pm
Originally posted by thewrite1
My collection of Essential X-Men only goes up to issue 179. I've heard before on this site that 183 is an excellent issue, but what are the chances of me getting a hold of it? Any issue with Piotr, Logan and Kurt makes me happy. Sigh.

Very big actually. I bought the issue some 3 month's ago online, and it wasn't that expensive. Go get it. You won't be sorry.
(if you want to know where I got them online, PM me, and I'll send you the link)

Wolverine
Sep 3, 2003, 06:18 pm
Any chance of the Fresh Up-start arc in the top 40?hmmmmm

Mike Gonzalez
Sep 4, 2003, 12:00 am
I hope Mutant Massacre, Inferno and/or Fall of the Mutants gets included. It's my favorite era.

Tan K.
Sep 4, 2003, 12:15 am
Inferno...:(

dasklein83
Sep 4, 2003, 12:24 am
This is a nice list. The only thing I disagree with is Exiles, since I've never really been that impressed by the series. The ties that bind should have been in the top 20. That was the best thing Niceza ever wrote, and he wrote a lot of decent stuff. I was a kid at the time, so I really enjoyed the Song, and today it's still not that bad of a story. I don't recall Apocalypse ever time traveling, though. I'm not sure if that was a typo or what, but it was just Cable and Stryfe always jumping around time to mess with him. Also, I disagree with the interpertation of Logan's letter to Jean. He was doing the noble thing, and he meant everything that he said to her about her belonging with Scott. At the time, Logan and Scott were written as having as a great respect and fondness for each other.

Wolverine
Sep 4, 2003, 01:22 am
look at them now. the riot at xavier issues have to be nominated. even just for the last page which is worth the money spent just for it

crawler_17
Sep 5, 2003, 06:04 pm
This is definetly a great segment. I can't wait for more of it. I loved the Onslaught crossover and AOA, that was the era when I was really getting back into comics and I really loved em.

crozack
Sep 6, 2003, 03:37 pm
How is Going Through The Motions not in the Top Ten? I swear, I cried when I read that issue. It definately deserved higher.

Tan K.
Sep 7, 2003, 12:27 am
but, Cro, you're a sissy....cry baby:(

dreamer
Sep 7, 2003, 02:51 pm
congratulations to all (comi)x-fan people for this wonderfull thread, a brilliant ay to celebrate the 40th year of x-men!

the entries are well-written and full with lots of information. good choices too. it is so good to see exiles up there and muir island saga as an epoch ending powerfull event which left a mark on the x-books together with a strong story deserved particularly to be mentioned. but i really think that x-cutioner's song deserved to be highr up the list. just the waiting and action and mystery was powerfull to strike you enough to stick with the x-men forever more, and yes, i do believe that epilogue belonges with that story making it even more of a master piece!

well, about all these post atteched to the list... COME ON GUYS! "mutant masaccre" gets mentioned this late!! it was THE major event! it fractured the angel for gods sake! it gave us marrow, the guilt of remy, ultimate betrayel against his kind and establishment as a major baddie of mr.sinister, etc, etc.. it left the team battered and bruised and it effected eah and any of them i it's particular way. it was such a good story filled with tension and fighting against the hopelessness and was the ultimate concentration of the theme of anger, hate and agrresion to those just 'different'. only the deformed mutants (unlike the fancy x-men) who were living on their own... this has to be in the list somewhere and i sure am that it is.

ok, enough banter about that. but what do you guys honestly have against the 90s? Onsalught was good, it deserves to be up among the greatest stories. imagine that we were finally seeing charly break down! and him turning out to be the traitor was a major twist. the scene where sentinels broke down falls edge and jean could not communicate the alarming message was one of the highest points. in fact it was full of high points i just can't list! the inclusion of franklin richards into the story! one of the biggest stories of f4! feeling of despair, fear, loosing; even among the avengers! (see hulk issues) well, "no one was safe" and this threat semed to be undefeatable. i don't care about heroes reborn, it was a terminal fight for the biggest heroes of MU. they did not know it; MU did not know it.. what ever, admit that it was good..

aaannndd: uncanny#350!! "trial of gambit".. pleasee.. so, wolvie wrote a letter, colllosus and kitty broke up, scott jean married.. no body cares for Remy? Rouge? what about the soo believable sorrow they were going through around this period? what about the art? i know many people do not like madureria's art but, this issue was a high point! his rouge was very likable and sexy in her own way and his remy was beau.. this issue even revealed the big secret behind remy's past leave alone the emotional suspense of it... come on! gambit is not a b-string 90s character, he deserves to be a part of the x-history writing of 40 years!

xmen#70 could also be nominated i guess. it was a good issue having a decent and complete story collecting several x elements under xaviers deserted roof together with a threat at the heart of the team (cyke himself), adding alien elements to folder, throw in growing tensions btwn people and so different motivations for characters. even a guest appereance by cain marko "after all these years, xavier's are eating up themselves..."

come on! vote up for 90s. it brought many well writen stories! powerfull plot lines, memorable character improvements.. besides AoA was also at the mid90s, which many admitted to be a good story.

let the pro-90s movement begin! (well, maybe not for the 12)

:bow:

crozack
Sep 7, 2003, 05:43 pm
Originally posted by Tan K.
but, Cro, you're a sissy....cry baby:(

Yeah, I'm just an old-fashioned romantic. What can I say?

And actually, this whole thing is only a prelude to The Dark Phoenix Saga at number one and God Loves, Man Kills at number two. Kind of makes it ridiculous, you know? We're all yelling for who should deservedly get the number three spot.

Tan K.
Sep 7, 2003, 08:21 pm
Originally posted by dreamer
come on! vote up for 90s. it brought many well writen stories! powerfull plot lines, memorable character improvements.. besides AoA was also at the mid90s, which many admitted to be a good story.

let the pro-90s movement begin! (well, maybe not for the 12)



puke. There were probably 5 good stories TOTAL in ALL of the x-titles during the 1990's (yes, I exaggerate, but you get the point)

Originally posted by crozack


Yeah, I'm just an old-fashioned romantic. What can I say?

And actually, this whole thing is only a prelude to The Dark Phoenix Saga at number one and God Loves, Man Kills at number two. Kind of makes it ridiculous, you know? We're all yelling for who should deservedly get the number three spot.

Psst: let me let ya in on a little secret. Alan Davis's X-Men run makes up a bog part of the top 5. Shameful of us. We are anti-establishment here at comiX-Fan.

Jordan T. Maxwell
Sep 8, 2003, 07:39 pm
Originally posted by Tan K.


Psst: let me let ya in on a little secret. Alan Davis's X-Men run makes up a bog part of the top 5. Shameful of us. We are anti-establishment here at comiX-Fan.

apparently, we're also anti-logic and taste as well. :p

Philip A Moore
Sep 13, 2003, 04:13 pm
I don't know if I would have included the Xecutioners Song. I remeber it as being hard to follow how ever if the editor wanted to mention the Phalanex Covenent that would be good . it interduced Generation X

my guess for top three xmen moments would

3 the Wolveriene limited searies
2 Dark Pheonx Saga
1 giant sized Xmen 98 the first appearence of the second generation of Xmen .

but then I could be wrong

GOOD DAY

Gail Simone
Sep 15, 2003, 09:16 pm
Well, you know what? This is one of the nicest thrills I've had in comics.

Many, MANY thanks.

Gail

NicholasRogue
Sep 15, 2003, 09:22 pm
I'm going for Dark Phoenix #1, Onslaught's gonna be in the top 10 and so is E is for Extinction, the Phoenix saga maybe, Days of Future Past, Second Genesis, I don't know about Operation Zero Tolerance or the Twelve Saga though those might not cut it.

Pete
Sep 17, 2003, 08:04 pm
Originally posted by number1958


That sounds about right, she was 13 1/2 when she joined the X-Men. I recently heard (probably on these boards) that they broke up because Jim Shooter didn't like the age gap. Their relationship would be illegal in certain states/countries if it was sexual (but it wasn't).



Really, what are the chances of a twenty year old man NOT having a sexual relationship with his g/f? :rolleyes:


That wolverine letter issue is quality, I laughed out loud when I saw his letter to Prof X :D

Cyclopian Visions
Sep 20, 2003, 01:12 pm
A nice start-off to the list. My personal faves from it happen to be The Ties That Bind and Going Through The Motions. The wedding issue was just handled very classily and consistent throughout and Going Through The Motions was akin to The Worlds Apart tale when Iceman quit the team after the attack on his father. The Muir Island Saga brought us to the heyday of the 90s...Lee/Claremont (drool) and brought me into the X-Men and comic fold. He'll Never Make Me Cry was just a classic Claremont tale...terrific characterization.

My own personal top 40 (what I own) checklist so far:
40, 38, 37, 36, 34, 33, 32, 31

Tan K.
Aug 8, 2006, 02:45 pm
Man, I forgot about these lists...Comix-Fan deserves a lot of credit, so I am posting to bring them back up for those who never got to see them.