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Al Harahap
Sep 5, 2003, 09:30 pm
<img src="http://pages.sbcglobal.net/harahap/top40xc1.gif" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>The Top 40 X-Characters of All Time, part 1: #40-31

If there's one aspect of the X-Men fans are passionate about, it's the characters. We all have attachments to these characters, whether they're ones we respect or ones who are simply our favourites. They are constructs -- mere words and pictures on a comic page. Yet many times we forget, and allow them access into our lives and emotions. Throughout the years, grown men have admitted crying to moving deaths, the most calm and collected fan can explode when something disagreeable happens to his/her favourites, and who hasn't witnessed heated debates over the better characters or fighters? So how dare we compile such "final" lists? It wasn't easy -- let me tell you -- much blood, sweat, and tears were involved. In honour of the X-Men's 40th anniversary, around twenty ComiX-Fan staff members have compiled, giving equal weight to the criteria of: originality, popularity, iconability, and impact, to bring you... the Top 40 X-Characters of All Time.

This week, we present to you our first installment of #40-31:

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#40: LONGSHOT
Created by: Ann Nocenti & Art Adams

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/longshot.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: Neither human, nor mutant, the being known as Longshot was created in a strange, twisted dimension called Mojoworld. This media-infested world had a few things in mind: ratings, ratings, and ratings! Thus, Longshot was made with hollow bone structure and increased muscle tissue for enhanced strength, agility, and reflexes for the sole purpose of providing various forms of entertainment for the masses. He is also blessed with extraordinary luck that has saved his proverbial behind more than once. Escaping the media slavery, Longshot came to Earth and befriended the stuntwoman named Ricochet Rita. Out of that friendship grew a love. But Longshot's first taste of this emotion would not have a happy ending. Mojo, Longshot's arch-enemy and former master, transformed Rita into longtime X-Men enemy, Spiral. Having lost his memory and stumbling upon the X-Men, Longshot found a second chance at love with the superstar-turned-superhero, Dazzler. Now with the aid of the X-Men, Longshot had the necessary power to overthrow Mojo, which he did. But Mojo would not stay down and soon resurfaced, thereby resulting in the now-married Longshot and Dazzler's decision to stay behind in Mojoworld to fight with the rebellion against him. Dazzler has recently returned to Earth, declaring Mojoworld decimated and Longshot dead.

Why: It wasn't until the solo adventurer Longshot stumbled upon, and joined, the X-Men that his character truly stood out. His character may have seemed bland compared to other heroes of the Marvel Universe, but within the ranks of the X-Men, there was now direct comparisons that complemented his traits. He was the "Spock" of the X-Men -- an alien being made interesting because of the way he had difficulty grasping human habits and emotions. Still, Longshot was an able field combatant, being the most agile of his X-Men team, and with his projectiles -- influencing the character of Gambit. Especially with his natural luck that could greatly effect the outcome of combat -- influencing the character of Domino. But mostly, Longshot's appeal came out of his struggle to gain some semblance of humanity. Through his relationships with Ricochet Rita, Dazzler, and Rogue, fans followed his awkwardness at friendships and love. Through his interactions with the other X-Men, fans learned of his naivette, which endearingly caused him to be the butt of many jokes.

Entry by Al Harahap

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#39: MAGIK (ILLYANA RASPUTIN)
Illyana Rasputin created by: Len Wein, Chris Claremont, & Dave Cockrum
Magik developed by: Chris Claremont & Brent Anderson

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/magik.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: Illyana was Colossus’ younger sister. Trapped in the demon filled realm called Limbo by its ruler, the sorcerer Belasco, Illyana was held captive. During these many years, Belasco twisted and tainted part of her soul into a demonic nature, through which she gained considerable mystical sorceress powers. He was drawn to her power over her Stepping Discs, which enabled her instantaneous Teleportation to anywhere or anywhen, with a brief stopover in the Limbo dimension. While in Limbo she was taught how to wield her magical powers, how to fight in combat, and to form a magical blade from part of her darksoul called the Soulsword, the ultimate embodiment of her mystical might. When she was finally strong enough, she fought and defeated Belasco, and eventually became Limbo’s new ruler. When she returned to Earth, Illyana learned that time works differently in Limbo, and that she had actually aged seven years in mere seconds. She then joined The New Mutants in order to learn about her mutant teleportation power, and adopted the codename Magik. During the conflict called Inferno, Magik reverted to her original age and lost her magical abilities along with the demonic part of her soul. She resumed her life as a relatively normal child, until she contracted the Legacy Virus. The cure for the virus was not found in time, and Illyana passed away.

Why: Magik may not have been the first X-man to die, but she was the youngest among them, and the closest to their hearts. Her death was a severe blow to characters throughout the X-Universe. Her literal family, the Rasputins, and especially Colossus, her extended family, the X-men, her dearest friends, Kitty and Jubilee, all stood by her side as she succumbed to the Legacy Virus, helpless to stop her suffering. Her death resonated throughout the X-teams, showing them the harsh fragility of their perilous lives. They aren’t all invulnerable, they’re not all immortal, they aren’t all the steel faced warriors-for-peace they try to be, and not everything falls into perfect place for them. She showed them the dark side everyone possesses, and the damage that can be wrought from by it if not kept in check. But she also displayed the strength to overcome those frailties and strive despite them. She gave them hope for future generations with her strong spirit, and gave them even more cause to fight for what they believe in. Illyana will never be forgotten, leaving behind a Legacy of her own.

Entry by Nancy Young

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#38: FORGE
Created by: Chris Claremont & John Romita Jr.

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/forge.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: His real name unknown, this Cheyenne inventor has been shaman, soldier, and technologist---often all at the same time. His nickname "The Maker" accurately describes his mutant ability to build any device he can imagine. He was raised to become a shaman of his tribe, but rejected it to fight in Vietnam and to embrace technology; yet, when confronted with the horrors of war, he used magic to get revenge on the enemy. This haunted him, and led him to be pursued by an ancient creature known as the Adversary. Forge later became an inventor for the United States government, and replicated a device for them that removed Storm's powers. Guilt-stricken, he nursed her back to health, and the two eventually fell in love. However, to defeat the Adversary, he had to kill the X-Men (although they survived, unbeknownst to him). Later, he became the government liaison for X-Factor. While with X-Factor, he was teamed up with Mystique, who had always hated him for the 'death' of her daughter Rogue, and had blamed him for the death of her lover Destiny. They eventually fell in love for a time, until X-Factor was attacked and Mystique fled the team to pursue her own interests. Currently, they are working together -- in a way -- since they are both working for Charles Xavier on espionage missions, but neither seems particularly happy about being reunited.

Why: Forge's conflict between magic and technology has often been his most compelling aspect, although in recent years it hasn't been brought up much. These days, he seems to be used largely as a "gadget guy," and while that is a useful function on its own, it is ignoring part of what made him interesting to begin with. However, another part of his appeal is his relationships (romantic and platonic) with other characters, for he has a rich history, and this is reflected when he interacts with others -- character interaction and history are part of what make the X-Men great. He doesn't have flashy powers like most characters, so he has an everyman appeal to which many readers can relate. He's a man who is quietly competent, friendly, and overcame his physical disabilities to be a valued ally---all admirable qualities. He's actually an X-character that you could plausibly know, and certainly one you would want to.

Entry by Lia Brown

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#37: LEGION (DAVID HALLER)
Created by: Chris Claremont & Bill Sienkiewicz

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/legion.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: David Haller, son of Gabrielle Haller and Charles Xavier, inherited his father’s telepathic gifts, though not the soundness of mind necessary to wield them safely. A powerful telepath, telekinetic, and pyrokinetic, Legion is possessed of the kind of power that Xavier has always feared of having in the wrong hands, and the realization that Legion’s are the wrong hands has done little to stabilize their relationship. Legion is highly mentally unbalanced; his psyche literally having split into distinct personalities. Because of this instability, Legion has on many occasions been at odds with his father and the X-Men, committing horrific acts without a true comprehension of what he is doing. Even when attempting to do something good, Legion causes trouble: an attempt to go back in time and remove the biggest obstacle to his father’s dream (namely Magneto) led to a disruption of reality that caused the Age of Apocalypse, as well as Legion’s own “death” when he inadvertently prevented his own conception.

Why: Legion is a complex character in everything he does, both because of his mental problems and because of who he is and what he represents. The triumverate of psychic powers he wields -- telepathy, telekinesis, and pyrokinesis -- is a major part of his appeal. But his multiple personalities, coupled with his role as the lost lamb of Xavier's mutants, makes his story the endearing tragedy that it is. Neither a hero nor a villain, Legion acts out of a child’s instinct, even when that instinct drives him to commit murder and mayhem. Legion is the literal face of the lost mutant child, unable to handle himself and his powers, that Xavier has always tried to seek out and help. Despite his best efforts, however, Xavier has repeatedly failed to help the one person who needs him the most: his own son. And it is this failure in familial bond that serves as constant reminder for the X-Men and for the readers that Charles Xavier, in all his glory and with all his power, is forced to make sacrifices in his pursuit of the dream.

Entry by Joel Phillips

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#36: DEADPOOL (WADE WILSON)
Created by: Fabian Nicieza & Rob Liefeld

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/deadpool.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: Wade Wilson is a professional killer, trained to take out his opponents in a variety of ways that would make Jackie Chan envious. A reject from Canada’s Weapon X program, Wade Wilson was introduced to Dr. Killebrew, who experimented on Weapon X failures in sick, twisted pet projects. To cure Wade Wilson of his cancer, the program had derived a healing factor from one of their previous successes, Wolverine, and injected it into Wade’s genetic make-up. The process left his whole face and body horribly disfigured. On the bright side -- as Wade himself would look at it -- he did gain a considerable healing factor on par with Wolverine's himself. Taking the name Deadpool, in honor of the hospice where he and other Weapon X rejects were subjected to torture, he now sells his services to the highest bidder, all while trying to fit in as neither a hero nor a villain. Deadpool returned to the Weapon X program for a while, but has since severed ties once more to sell his services, but more importantly for him, for the freedom and rush of it all.

Why: Why not?? With a name that parodies another of comics' professional assassins for hire -- Slade Wilson, a.k.a. DC's Deathstroke the Terminator -- you just know that Wade Wilson was meant for the laughs he would give readers throughout the years. Deadpool is a breath of fresh air in a world of anti-hero vigilante overkill. Humor, drama, action, Deadpool has it all.! Whether it’s trying to be the next messiah as part of Landau, Luckman, and Lake’s Mithras Directive, running his own merci agency, or simply being a “hero for hire,” Deadpool still is able to capture the imagination and sick little puppy in all of us. Interesting casts of supporting characters over the years has only helped keep interest in this character alive, and helps to remind us all that generic killers with guns and sharp objects may come and go, but there is only one merc’ with a mouth!

Entry by Anthony Lucynski

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#35: DESTINY (IRENE ADLER)
Created by: Chris Claremont & John Byrne

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/destiny.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: Named after the only woman (or man) to ever outwit famed super sleuth Sherlock Holmes, Irene Adler was a mutant with the ability to predict the future. She was thus a useful ally to her partner, Mystique -- as well as a longtime lover. Together, they raised their adopted daughter Rogue, and the three women formed the core of a new Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, which was ideologically motivated to fight for mutant rights (as well as taking care of Mystique's personal business). Destiny and Mystique later went on to work for the U.S. government as part of the superpowered team Freedom Force, which at times brought them into conflict, other times working alongside, established hero teams. It was while working to help the X-Men's friends on Muir Island that Destiny met her death. She had predicted it beforehand, but felt it was inevitable, and did not try to stop it. While her teammates were busy in battle, Destiny was killed by a Shadow-King-controlled Legion. She was somehow absorbed into Legion's consciousness, and continued to speak to him, causing him to pursue his father's enemy Magneto. Accidentally killing his father, Charles Xavier, this event brought about the Age of Apocalypse. In recent times, it was discovered that she had once written a series of diaries predicting the future, and several parties, including a splinter group of X-Men led by Storm, sought them out for the insight they might bring.

Why: Destiny was an interesting person, who perhaps had more dimensions added to her after she died. She has continued to play a role in the Marvel universe even though she's been dead since 1989. She is unique in that she's one of Marvel's few gay/lesbian characters, and certainly she and Mystique were one of the earliest couples, although until recently most references to their relationship were rather oblique. We don't know a lot about her, and there are unknown gaps in her long history, which adds to the intrigue. Certainly, there is much to be explored in her history, such as perhaps how she met Mystique, or what she was doing in the years they were apart. Irene also had interesting personal circumstances: she was physically blind, and yet could "see" into the future, an irony not lost on her. However, despite her disability and often disturbing nature of her powers, she rarely complained, and was often a source of stability for the other people in her life. She was often portrayed as passive and gentle, particularly with Mystique and Rogue, and yet could be coldly violent, such as when she aimed a crossbow at Senator Kelly. And it's this dichotomy of her nature that is so compelling.

Entry by Lia Brown

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#34: SEBASTIAN SHAW
Created by: Chris Claremont & John Byrne

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/sebastian.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: Born into poverty, Sebastian Shaw used his own business sensibilities to found the multimillion-dollar Shaw Industries. Because of this gain in social status, Shaw was invited to join the New York chapter of the elite Hellfire Club. Gaining rank rather rapidly to become its Inner Circle's Black Bishop, Shaw eventually usurped the then White King Edward Buckman, himself taking on the position of the Black King. He then began his plan to reshape the Inner Circle by filling it with socially powerful mutants, while keeping the previous Inner Circle's aspirations of world domination through ruthless economic and financial means. From the Phoenix to mutant-hunting Sentinels, from a potential Legacy Virus cure to his own son, there’s nothing Shaw won’t buy, sell, steal, or even destroy if there’s something to be gained from it. A man whose mutancy makes him as physically formidable as he is intellectually sharp, Shaw is never a man to be taken lightly.

Why: In a rogue's gallery that boasts powerful mutants, immortals, and downright nasty creatures, Sebastian Shaw is a different kind of enemy for the X-Men -- the kind that is not content to strike at them with his fists. Although, when they do come at him in close combat, he is quite willing, and able, to oblige them a knockdown battle. But Shaw was much more of a threat in other aspects. He uses his money and his power to get what he wants, and to destroy anything and anyone who gets in his way. People are meaningless to Shaw, except as toys to play with or tools to use for his own ends. Though his position as Black King within the Hellfire Club is an important part of Shaw’s arsenal, it does not define him. The day that the Hellfire Club had outlived its usefulness Shaw would be done with it, and would no doubt depart the club better off than when he entered it.

Entry by Joel Phillips

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#33: POLARIS (LORNA DANE)
Created by: Arnold Drake & Don Heck

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/polaris.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: As a mutant, the model Lorna Dane was hypnotised by Mesmero for recruitment into his great mutant army. But with the X-Man Iceman's help, she snapped out of his mind control. She soon joined the ranks of the X-Men and grew romantically close with Iceman. Though not long after would turn to another X-Man, Havok, with whom she has had an on-and-off relationship over the years. When most of the original X-Men "graduated" and made way for the next generation, Polaris along with Havok also left on their archaelogical adventures around the world. It seemed like a happy ending for the two... until Polaris was abducted and possessed by the mutant known as Malice. Under this guise, Malice led Mister Sinister's team of Marauders, who would commit genocide on the Morlocks during the Mutant Massacre. Soon, Polaris was able to free herself of Malice, and eventually accepted Val Cooper's invitation to join the U.S. Government-run X-Factor, where she reunited with longtime lover, Havok. But once more, this union was not to be, as Havok was seemingly killed in an explosion, which then started the deterioration of her sanity. While assissting Magneto's rule over Genosha, Polaris was one of the few very fortunate to survive Cassandra Nova's Sentinel genocide on the island nation. This caused total mental breakdown for Polaris, which has caused her to become insane to this day.

Why: If it means anything at all, Polaris was the second woman to become an X-Man, proving that it wasn't an old boys club. Moreover, she was possibly the most powerful of them at the time -- not counting Professor X himself. Circumstance happens on Lorna quite a lot that isn't desirable for any character. And through these circumstances, fans have warmed up to the character by rooting for the underdog to gain some joy and happiness. With her magnetic powers touted to have the potential of rivalling Magneto's himself, Polaris also has a similar potential in becoming a character of his magnitude. It's just a shame that she is continually mind-controlled or become mentally ill, which not only hampers the character's development in major ways, but has also branded her the yo-yo of the X-Men's proverbial toy box. Otherwise, her character is surely to have placed much higher. And who knows? With Magneto supposedly gone, much could be done with this character.

Entry by Al Harahap

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#32: MADELYNE PRYOR
Created by: Chris Claremont & Paul Smith

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/madelyne.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: A clone of Jean Grey, Madelyne Pryor was created by the scheming Mister Sinister to manipulate the X-Man Cyclops from behind the scenes. And even with her strange, uncanny resemblance to his dead lover, Cyclops welcomed her into his heart. The two would eventually marry, and from this union, came the child who would one day become the mutant known as Cable. Madelyne Pryor seems, at first, to be defined more by the people around her than by who she is herself. Much of that, however, comes from the fact that even Madelyne doesn’t truly know herself, her mind a train wreck of memories that are not her own and a life’s history that never happened. The realization of her origin drove Madelyne over the edge, leading to the madness of the event called Inferno, where she became the Goblin Queen, and which resulted in Madelyne’s eventual suicide. A version of Madelyne was recreated by the mutant X-Man, using his extremely powerful psychic abilities. Although, it's unclear whether this being ever maintained any inkling of the real Madelyne.

Why: Madelyne embodies the adage "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." She is a prime example of the woman wronged: by her husband, by the woman from whom she was created, and by the man who created her. Villainous as she could be, it was difficult not to sympathise with Madelyne when Cyclops abandoned her and their child to be with his first love, Jean Grey. Despite the many hardships she would endure, including her eventual spiral into madness, Madelyne remained a unique and, in a way, strong figure. Though physically similar to her genetic template, Jean Grey, Madelyne had a personality that was her own. In some ways, it was interesting to see her thoughts and actions as something Jean Grey would be and do, had she experienced the hardships this clone had. However, to dismiss Madelyne as just another Jean Grey knockoff is to miss the point of the character: a person who, despite her origins, did ultimately manage to become her own person, even if it wasn’t the person everyone wanted her to be.

Entry by Joel Phillips

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#31: MOIRA MACTAGGERT
Created by: Chris Claremont & Dave Cockrum

<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/headshots/moira.jpg" border=0 align=left alt="Top 40 X-Characters"></a>Who: When she first appeared, Moira MacTaggert was the X-Men’s new housekeeper. But there was much more to this beautiful Scotswoman. Moira was soon revealed as a Nobel Laureate for her work in genetics, Xavier’s “silent” partner in his school… and his former lover. A daughter of nobility, her ancestral home of Muir Island served as a center for studying mutation. But her final secret proved deadly… her son Kevin was a mutant, powerful but unstable. He became the villain Proteus, threatening the X-Men and most of Scotland. After his death, Moira shared her time between Xavier’s and Muir Island (and a new romance with Sean Cassidy, a.k.a. Banshee). Under the influence of the Shadow King, Moira began training her own team of mutants. A confrontation with the X-Men led to the island’s destruction. But it was soon rebuilt, now a home base for the mutant team Excalibur and a research center for the deadly Legacy Virus. Her research had dead-ended until Mystique‘s attempts at co-opting the virus provided the key. Finding the cure would prove a finite victory as Muir was again destroyed and Moira left dying. Xavier had to read her mind to save the cure, sharing one last astral embrace with his first love before she died… with the promise that she would be waiting in the beyond for him…

Why: To put it in plain terms, Moira was human. Yet she fought with all the passion and ardor, all the strength and grace that you would expect from a daughter of Scotland. Up until Moira appeared, there were very few regular humans allying themselves with the X-Men. Yet their fight was her fight. She did not fear them; she did not hate them. She was far too intelligent for that. Moira MacTaggert was the embodiment of what the X-Men fought for, a humanity loving and accepting of their mutant brethren. Moira was a woman of great depth, passion… but also guilt and shame. She hid away her own son, locking him in a cell for years for fear of his discovery. She manipulated Magneto’s genetic code to modify his behavior when he had been reduced to an infant. The cold logic of a scientist combined with the driving passion of a woman would lead her down paths of best intentions. But the crimes against these children would haunt her always. Haunt her… but never break her. All else aside, Moira was strong: surviving and walking out on her abusive husband, making it as an independent woman in a male dominated society, and fighting for a cause that was feared and hated -- not because she had to, but because she believed.

Entry by Jordan T. Maxwell

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Be sure to check back next week for part 2, #30-21! For more special articles, features, and columns celebrating the 40th Anniversaries of the Avengers and X-Men, click here! (http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21464)

Scott Williams
Sep 5, 2003, 10:17 pm
Very interesting, well thought out list.

Deadpool should be higher. Higher than Madelyne Pryor and Destiny, at least.

Now this will have have a lot of speculation going for it, as to who'll be in the top 10, let along #1.

And if it's Wolverine, I'll choke myself to death.

Steven Paul
Sep 5, 2003, 10:31 pm
Originally posted by Scott Williams
Very interesting, well thought out list.

And if it's Wolverine, I'll choke myself to death.

lol, same here. Longshot at 40, i'm actually kinda amazed he is even on the list. I thought Polaris would have been higher.

Great job everyone. Looks good so far.

Robb Welch
Sep 5, 2003, 10:42 pm
Originally posted by Scott Williams

And if it's Wolverine, I'll choke myself to death.

I don't get it. Why? He's the most popular character. and obviously for a reason. So should the ComiXfan staff have to totaly ignore this fact just because of over exposer? "Well... all signs point to Wolverine being the best there is. But our readers think hes too over-exposed.... so let's make Gambit number one insted.... they think hes too worn out.... lets use storm... they think shes too boring... use Rogue... no really that was a joke. dont walk off. use Nightcrawler. He's blue."

NicholasRogue
Sep 5, 2003, 10:59 pm
Thank God you guys finally recognized Madelyne Pryor as such a great character, she really does embody "Hell Hath no fury like a woman scorned" Destiny, Magik, Longshot, Moira Mactaggert, Legion, Sebastian Shaw, Polaris, Forge - all great underdog X-characters!

SmashedPumpkin
Sep 5, 2003, 11:12 pm
I hate clones and I hate polaris. But other than that, great list. Longshot and Legion are two amazing characters, and wow, Forge and Deadpool as well. I'm actually more looking forward to who is 30-11 and not the top ten.

EDIT: And yes, I know what it says on his little summary thing, but is Longshot really dead? Have we been shown any proof other than someones word?

TracyNichols
Sep 6, 2003, 12:10 am
Good list so far. Although I feel Magick should be up higher, and I'm no fan of Madelyne Pryor, but I feel it's good otherwise.

Wolverine may not be 1 like everyone keeps saying, though he will most certainly be in the top 10. Actually, I'm pretty sure I know who the top 10 will be already, so I'm more looking forward to 30-11, as Pumpkin said.

Gat0r-ManX
Sep 6, 2003, 12:37 am
i would put magik and deadpool a little higher..

but still a good list

KingStalin
Sep 6, 2003, 12:48 am
remember he was in the exiles not that long ago, And don't say that was an alternate longshot as in exiles it was said there is only one mojoverse in the entire multiverse.

Deadpool49
Sep 6, 2003, 01:10 am
Really surprised to see Deadpool so low. I guess its because of his lack of impact.

Tom 2TUM Toner
Sep 6, 2003, 01:19 am
Originally posted by Perfect Methods
I don't get it. Why? He's the most popular character. and obviously for a reason. So should the ComiXfan staff have to totaly ignore this fact just because of over exposer?

he may be most popular with the general public, but we're talking the ComiX-Fan staff here ;)

and it's not popularity that defines where a character is placed.

GuyX
Sep 6, 2003, 01:36 am
List looks solid so far.

I was suprised Deadpool was so low too. But I think the rest of the list will be great. I think theres no doubt whatsoever who the top five are(coughwolviecykejeanchuckstorm)...i just dont know what their final order will be.

but i cant wait to read the rest.

Robb Welch
Sep 6, 2003, 02:38 am
Originally posted by Tom 2TUM Toner


he may be most popular with the general public, but we're talking the ComiX-Fan staff here ;)

and it's not popularity that defines where a character is placed.

Yeah, but a characters popularity certainly says SOMETHING about their impact, their character strengths, their longevity, their apeal and their versitility. Which are the most important things for a sucessful character.

Storm_1118
Sep 6, 2003, 03:05 am
Great list, couldn't have written it better! Can't wait to read the rest...are you REALLY going to make me wiat 7 more days to read about the next 10? *sniff*

Sivvius
Sep 6, 2003, 03:13 am
Number one will deffinetly be Cyclops, (I hope) Storm, Wolverine, or Jean Grey.

ronaldmcdonald
Sep 6, 2003, 03:22 am
i guess wolverine will be number 1 or cyclops.
but both will be on the top ten. and also rogue, jean , gambit, storm

SmashedPumpkin
Sep 6, 2003, 03:23 am
Hey guys, which characters do you think will NOT make the list?

I personally don't see The Vanisher showing up anytime soon. :D

Omar A. Safi
Sep 6, 2003, 03:29 am
I can't wait to see the rest :excited:.

Cory Wiegel
Sep 6, 2003, 03:36 am
Good list so far. My money's on Magneto for the #1 spot. I'm hoping Iceman and Rogue will be somewhere in the top 20, however. Aside for Deadpool (who should have been in the up and coming 30s), this list is spot on so far.

harlekein
Sep 6, 2003, 04:33 am
I'm guessing Kurt is going to make number one spot. And I'm sure Agent-X will appear. Some on the list I would have put higher or expected higher, just so you know, I'll be dissapointed if Cypher is left out.

Hell hath no fury like harlekein scorned

magiklover
Sep 6, 2003, 04:50 am
Magik Should be NUmber 1! but i could be biased :cool:

Good List so Far, but Deadpool and (ahem)Magik should be higher

Zachary J. Morrison
Sep 6, 2003, 05:02 am
Good list so far. I think Magik should be at least #32. I hope Wolverine & Jean are in the top 10. Can't wait to see the rest of the list ;)

Jordan T. Maxwell
Sep 6, 2003, 06:23 am
Joel's gonna kick my butt for this...but i'm about to have a fanboy nitpick moment. Legion didn't prevent his own conception (which would have created an even greater time paradox)...he was consumed by the "energy loop" that consumed both he and AOA Bishop. In fact, there's some speculation that he committed that grand old science fiction chestnut of going back in time and conceiving himself.

Can you imagine the kind of fun Sophocles could have had with time travel? ;)

Jennifer de Vries
Sep 6, 2003, 08:58 am
Gee. I do wonder what the rest of the list will be!! Great work Al, especially since your colleague is being a gigantic slacker, thus leaving you with a lot more work than is good for you. :p

RENDELL
Sep 6, 2003, 09:52 am
I think deadpool should be higher
deadpool for #1

Martin Dudek
Sep 6, 2003, 10:28 am
The whole list was interesting, but Wolvie better nto be #1 - he's the most popular, sure, but that doesn't make him the "best" X-Men of all time- that just makes him popular.

Captain America
Sep 6, 2003, 10:51 am
Number 1, hmm...

Wolverine or Professor X or Magneto maybe...

Hope Shadowcat is in the top 10.

punisher18
Sep 6, 2003, 11:10 am
1. Prof X
2. Magneto
3. Either Wolverine, Cyclops or Jean.

mikeyh99
Sep 6, 2003, 11:34 am
my top ten would be
10.Jean Grey
9.Psylocke
8.Colossus
7.Nightcrawler
6.Cyclops
5.Storm
4.Beast or Iceman or Jubilee
3.Wolverine
2.Gambit
1.Rogue

See i dont want wolverine at 1 but i know he'll be in the top five so i put him at 3. and i doubt Jubilee or iceman are in the top 5 or 10 but i like them and you probly think why rogue at 1 because she is my all time favorite x-man or woman!

Stormy
Sep 6, 2003, 11:44 am
Some interesting choices here... Destiny, Shaw, Longshot... I'm betting on either jean or Storm to be #1.

Jon Hancock
Sep 6, 2003, 12:01 pm
Seb Shaw???

yuck. i hope the blob's in there then.

also yuck to madelyne pryor. she just confused everything.

clones need to be banned from comics

Joel Phillips
Sep 6, 2003, 01:14 pm
Originally posted by Jordan T. Maxwell
Joel's gonna kick my butt for this...but i'm about to have a fanboy nitpick moment. Legion didn't prevent his own conception (which would have created an even greater time paradox)...he was consumed by the &quot;energy loop&quot; that consumed both he and AOA Bishop. In fact, there's some speculation that he committed that grand old science fiction chestnut of going back in time and conceiving himself.

Can you imagine the kind of fun Sophocles could have had with time travel? ;)

He prevented his own conception when he killed Xavier, starting the AoA. The "energy loop" nonsense didn't come until after the AoA was fixed.

NicholasRogue
Sep 6, 2003, 01:17 pm
I personally think the list is pretty accurate so far, at first I only thought it was going to be heroes, but villains too is fun. For villains I hope Magneto, Sinister, Apocalypse, Mystique, Dark Phoenix, Mojo, and Onslaught are on there. As far as the top 10 goes, I'm thinking it'll be something like (in no particular order) Professor X, Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Jean Grey, Rogue, Gambit, Cyclops, and Magneto. But I want Colossus and Psylocke up their too! We need to honor the martyrs!

Tan K.
Sep 6, 2003, 02:03 pm
Colossus and Psylocke were left off the list because of the controversy surrounding them. Sorry.



















I love lying :devil:

crozack
Sep 6, 2003, 03:28 pm
Well, I think we all know number one is going to be Magneto or Professor X. Hopefully Magneto.

Can't say I agree too much on the list so far. I mean, damn, Longshot? Ugh. Destiny? Ugh. Deadpool? He's only stood out for the last five years when he got his own series...and his series then turned into something that wasn't his.

I hope it improves.

TracyNichols
Sep 6, 2003, 03:50 pm
Originally posted by Spriteguy16
I Professor X, Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat, Jean Grey, Rogue, Gambit, Cyclops, and Magneto.

Swap Gambit for either Iceman or the Phoenix Force, and you have my guesses for the top 10. I like Gambit, but I think he'll only end up somewhere between 11 and 20.

GuyX
Sep 6, 2003, 03:55 pm
Yeah Gambit will be between 20-11.

And on my top five switch jean for magneto. I forgot about old bucket head.

Jennifer de Vries
Sep 6, 2003, 04:04 pm
Originally posted by crozack
Well, I think we all know number one is going to be Magneto or Professor X. Hopefully Magneto.

Can't say I agree too much on the list so far. I mean, damn, Longshot? Ugh. Destiny? Ugh. Deadpool? He's only stood out for the last five years when he got his own series...and his series then turned into something that wasn't his.

I hope it improves.

The thing about a list composed of the choices made by several people with different preferences and opinions is that it's barely something any single person can agree with.

So it might improve in some people's eyes, just not yours. Then again, maybe it will. ;)

DanteMundus
Sep 6, 2003, 05:27 pm
I would like to say that I completely agree with Perfect Methods, in regards to posters at X-Fan and Wolverine. Why people insist on getting upset and lashing themselves into a frenzy over the mere possibility that Wolverine might be the greatest X-character of all time is beyond me. It just doesn't make any sense; we haven't even got into the top twenty yet and people are protesting that Wolverine shouldn't be number 1.

Personally, I think that Storm, Sage, and Thunderbird III should be killed off as soon as possible, as horrifically as possible (something like how the Joker killed Jason Todd sounds about right), but if they get into the top 10 (almost guaranteed for Storm), I'm not going to get into a strop and write a post in protest. I'll be interested to know why they made the top 10. If Wolverine makes no 1 (doubtful) then I'll be interested to know what made the panel pick him over everyone else. I think some people need to realise that whatever is written here does not make their personal favourite less important. This is just some well informed (I assume) people giving us their well written opinions on who they think are the best characters. I think that Forge is a better character than Destiny, but I can still respect that they don't.
It just comes down to more Wolverine hating, which is as lame as it gets in my opinion. A lot of people say that the internet doesn't represent the majority of comic book fans at all, and I have to agree with them, especially since arguably the most popular character in comics today (only Spiderman and Batman can claim to be more popular) is intensely disliked by the majority of internet posters.

If a character is popular, then there is bound to be a reason for his popularity. Wolverine is the most popular X-Man, by far. So there should really be a reason for this. Superman, Batman and Spiderman are the other most popular characters in comics, and no one can deny that they are not great characters. Why is it different for Wolverine?
I don't think he's the best X-Man. I personally think that title belongs to Cyclops. Magneto and Xavier are also in the running for that position, but I don't really consider them to be X-Men, they are in a league above that, and so too is Wolverine. Wolverine shouldn't even be an X-Man in the first place, in my opinion. But as far as I'm concerned, he is the best character to ever come out the X-Universe (and I won't moan and whinge if the panel disagree with me).
I'd also like to say what a great idea the whole idea is, of celebrating 40 years of Avengers and X-Men. If they are all going to be as well written as the ones I have read, I look forward to reading them. Whoever came up with this idea should be thanked. So thank you, whoever you are.
Since you're doing a top 40 X-Men thing, how about a top 40 Avengers list? That would be just as cool, I think a lot of people would like to know more about the Avengers.

Al Harahap
Sep 6, 2003, 07:01 pm
Originally posted by DanteMundus
I'd also like to say what a great idea the whole idea is, of celebrating 40 years of Avengers and X-Men. If they are all going to be as well written as the ones I have read, I look forward to reading them. Whoever came up with this idea should be thanked. So thank you, whoever you are.

Credit where credit's due: Erwin Rafael was the impetus a few months ago; Joel Phillips got the ball rolling; Jim Lemoine, Tan K., and myself expanded; then it just snowballed and a bunch of 20 or so dedicated staff came along for the picks, orders, and writing!

Since you're doing a top 40 X-Men thing, how about a top 40 Avengers list? That would be just as cool, I think a lot of people would like to know more about the Avengers.

This was discussed, and the concensus was that an Avengers ranking would be more "fixed" and predictable than X-Characters. The Avengers books are very insular and there's stagnancy in their hierarchy and evolution as a team book (not much change in 40 years). Though we may just have something else in the works for them. ;) (I hesitate to mention names or details as it's not finalised and may not go through.)

thewrite1
Sep 6, 2003, 08:10 pm
I think Xavier will make it into the top ten but he won't be near the number 1 spot. Magneto, Cyclops and Wolverine are all strong contenders for that role. I believe Scott may be top. I hope Gambit or Jean don't make it into the top ten. . .

With regards to the results so far, Moira definitely deserves her place here. Here's hoping Colossus gets his dues as well.

TracyNichols
Sep 6, 2003, 08:29 pm
Believe me, I am NO fan of Jean or Cyclops. I don't like those two, and I don't like anything Summers or Phoenix. But I won't deny that those two will most likely be somewhere in the top 10 just because of the impact those two have had on the X-Universe throughout the years. Therefore I won't complain if they are.

stoney
Sep 6, 2003, 08:55 pm
This is a tough list but it is off ot a great start! There are plenty of people I would love to see in the top 10:

Aurora - Split personality sexpot superheroine vs. Chaste Catholic

Beast - Great mind, not so great body

Cypher - Hero with an inferiority complex...no wonder you're dead (eventhough I LOVED him)

Phoenix\Dark Phoenix - Power corrupts...or does it?

Colossus - A lover...not a fighter

Mystique - You can be anyone you like and you choose Blue?


There are just toooo many to choose from. Can't wait to see more.

Sunspot
Sep 6, 2003, 09:20 pm
I would love to see Cannonball, Dazzler, Chamber and Northstar in the list, I don't mind the position.
They're great!
I think my other favorites (Colossus, Storm, Magneto, Emma Frost, Shadowcat and Nightcrawler) will be in the top 15!

Jordan T. Maxwell
Sep 6, 2003, 10:05 pm
Originally posted by Joel Phillips


He prevented his own conception when he killed Xavier, starting the AoA. The &quot;energy loop&quot; nonsense didn't come until after the AoA was fixed.

Hmm...yeah, you got me there. misread your entry as what happened at the END of the story, not the BEGINNING.

Fever Pitch
Sep 6, 2003, 11:08 pm
Exiles Mimic. Exiles Mimic. Exiles Mimic. Exiles Mimic. (rambles)

What? Judd made a special effort on the dude.

Michael Fisch
Sep 7, 2003, 12:48 am
Longshot should be higher.

#1 should go to Jean Grey...the heart and soul of the XMen and the biggest influence on their history. Much more so than Wolvie.

If not her, then Slipstream.

Jesse Baer
Sep 7, 2003, 01:08 am
Originally posted by DanteMundus
Personally, I think that Storm, Sage, and Thunderbird III should be killed off as soon as possible

This got me thinking, how about a Top 10 WORST character list? The most developed characters that everyone hated. Now that would be a great list from ComiX-Fan.
These 40th anniversary lists are fantastic. Hats off to everyone at ComiX-Fan making them possible.

doctorx
Sep 7, 2003, 02:06 am
Chris Claremont created Illyana?

Not to be nitpicky, but I thought her first appearance was only written by Len Wein.

PinkShiro
Sep 7, 2003, 02:53 am
interesting to hear the fans opinions...some say longshot should never have made the list while some say he should have been higher....i guess it all comes down to a matter of opinion. on that note:

some people who i think will definately make it:
Wolverine
Gambit
bishop
Cyke
Cable
Jean grey

some people who i hope will make it:
Jubilee
banshee
psylocke
Annie (HAHAHAH just kidding ;) )

SuperGirl
Sep 7, 2003, 03:31 am
I hope Gambit makes it in the top 10.
But I don't really care.... he'll always be number 1 for me.
And Rogue HAS to be in the top 10!!!

It would be ironic for Wolverine to be number 1, he wasn't even created to be a part of the X-universe.

Unicorn_Pegasus
Sep 7, 2003, 05:56 am
Oh you're all so wrong! So very, very WRONG! The top ten goes like this:

10.) Beenee and Ceecil
9.) Ink
8.) Ch'od
7.) Gaia
6.) Moonboy
5.) Gossymer (OMG she like so totally rocks)
4.) Mondo
3.) Toad
2.) The Cassidy Keep Elves (Damn you Chuck Austen! You will not keep a good gnome down!)
1.) Beak (Oh, isn't he just the dreamiest!)

Jubilee was completly snubbed! She didn't even get last place. It's rigged it tell ya! Rigged! I'm going to go sob in the corner now, clutching my homemade Jubilee barbie doll. :~(

*mummble mummble* What did you just say? I am NOT a liar! *asks imaginary Jubilee sitting next to her* I'm not a liar am I? No. See Jubes says I'm the epitomy of truthfullness! :devil: Mallrat's Honor!

harlekein
Sep 7, 2003, 06:29 am
Sacrilege! They aren't elves, they are Leprechauns! As for Beak, you damn know it alright. Bird-Brain+Dutch=THE COOLEST.

Cloak
Sep 7, 2003, 08:53 am
I'm guessing Prof X will be number 1. Storm deserves to be right behind him (or perhaps number 1 herself), she's the epitome of what every X-man could ever hope to be. Seperate from that, she has evolved to apply her own ideas on mutant-human relationships with her very own independant team.

Douglas Cuckler
Sep 7, 2003, 09:01 am
Uni you forgot Bird Brain in your list. :)

Everyone really Knows Wolfsbane and Moonstar will be number one and two. The only thing is what order will they be in ...hmmmmmm......:D


Thanks for mentioning Irene (destiny) and Moira. Moira was always great. And poor Irene, I just loved her

PinkShiro
Sep 7, 2003, 10:57 am
Banshee =)

Joel Phillips
Sep 7, 2003, 12:53 pm
Originally posted by doctorx
Chris Claremont created Illyana?

Not to be nitpicky, but I thought her first appearance was only written by Len Wein.

Look again, it says that in the bio: Len Wein created Illyana, but Claremont created the Magik persona.

TracyNichols
Sep 7, 2003, 01:18 pm
I thought those things in Cassidy keep were trolls? :D

Tan K.
Sep 7, 2003, 01:23 pm
Originally posted by opticblast


This got me thinking, how about a Top 10 WORST character list? The most developed characters that everyone hated. Now that would be a great list from ComiX-Fan.
These 40th anniversary lists are fantastic. Hats off to everyone at ComiX-Fan making them possible.

I think the top 10 worst idea was thought f, but there are waaaaaay too many bad characters and the chances of some unknown pathetics popping up was too laborious (at least for me).

Big Guy
Sep 7, 2003, 05:52 pm
dead pool sould be before that

wolverine for number 1

doctorx
Sep 7, 2003, 06:13 pm
Actually, Joel it says....

Illyana Rasputin created by: Len Wein, Chris Claremont, & Dave Cockrum

Magik developed by: Chris Claremont & Brent Anderson


Shouldn't it be...

Illyana Rasputin created by: Len Wein & Dave Cockrum

Magik developed by: Chris Claremont & Brent Anderson

Joel Phillips
Sep 7, 2003, 07:17 pm
Damned if I know. Illyana debuted in Giant-Size #1. Whether or not CC had a hand in the creation of those characters (and logic would lead me to think he did, since they were being created for his series) I don't know for certain.

doctorx
Sep 7, 2003, 09:10 pm
I don't think CC had a hand in creating those characthers for Giant Size X-Men #1.

CC mentioned in one of his posts, not too long that Len Wein was supposed to be the regular writer, but something happened and CC inherited the role of being the writer

Also at the Chris Claremont Checlist Page, CC mentions that he did do something for GSXM #1, but that he only thought of the idea of how Krakoa could be defeated.

And it is kinda weird, because CC did "practically" create all those characthers like Wolverine, Storm, Nightcrawler, Colussus, and Illyana. But, techincally speaking, he really didn't actually "create" them.

Kevin Sutton
Sep 8, 2003, 12:23 am
I wonder if Xornwill be on this list...

Jesse Baer
Sep 8, 2003, 12:39 am
Originally posted by SuperMutant
I wonder if Xornwill be on this list...
I really doubt it
a. he just hasn't been around very long. There's no history, and we hardly know anything about him.
b. for the above reaon, if he were to make the list, he would probably have been on the 31-40 list.

but then again, who knows? The judges may all be Xorn fans

jota
Sep 8, 2003, 08:37 am
I love the idea of this list and reading the reasons for the characters being in it. I'm glad Deadpool made it.

Anthony Lucynski
Sep 8, 2003, 10:45 am
Deadpool? He's only stood out for the last five years when he got his own series...and his series then turned into something that wasn't his

For a lot of people (especially the generation of readers that started circa the late 80's, early 90's) Deadpool has been a major character for over 10 years now.

To you, that may not be a long time. For me and others, that's over half of our time as collectors.

Heck, it it werent for Deadpool, I cant honestly say that I would be the collector/reader that I am today. It was Wolverine (solo series, issue #8) that got me into collecting. It was New Mutants #98 that kept me there.

Anthony L

Tan K.
Sep 8, 2003, 01:07 pm
I have to agree. Liefeld, Nicieza, Kelly, etc. have really made Deadpool one of the more popular x-characters. In terms of significance, I can't say he was as integral as some, which may explain his lower ranking, but in his relatively short existence, he has made an entertainment impact.

DeadmanWade
Sep 8, 2003, 04:04 pm
I think deadpool shoulda been higher but thats just because he rules my life.

Anthony Lucynski
Sep 8, 2003, 09:27 pm
Yeah, me to. My retailer was going off on the cover to Cable/Deadpool #1, saying it really IS the return of the 90's (he wasnt saying this as a good thing). He stopped when he saw me practically drooling, realizing that I was going to buy at least one copy.

Never knock a potential sale.

At any rate, I dont think a character's impact can be measured by time. You can have a character have a huge impact on you, and only be around for a couple of months! (re: lots of the AOA characters spring to mind, and the All new, all Deadly X-Men)

Anthony L

Wolverine
Sep 9, 2003, 04:08 am
This was a great column I really want to see Mags, and nova in the top 20

Unicorn_Pegasus
Sep 9, 2003, 05:41 am
Originally posted by Anthony Lucynski
Yeah, me to. My retailer was going off on the cover to Cable/Deadpool #1, saying it really IS the return of the 90's (he wasnt saying this as a good thing). He stopped when he saw me practically drooling, realizing that I was going to buy at least one copy.

Never knock a potential sale.

At any rate, I dont think a character's impact can be measured by time. You can have a character have a huge impact on you, and only be around for a couple of months! (re: lots of the AOA characters spring to mind, and the All new, all Deadly X-Men)

Anthony L

Does that mean I should be ashamed that I've already added it to my pull list? :shame:

Choosing "The Top X-Characters Of All Time" is a VERY different list than "Your Favorite X-Characters." Taking into account lasting impact, historical contributions, significance, etc., then popularity, is far more difficult than to simply go by who you like the most. I think this list is shaping up quite nicely to represent a broad array of opinions, not just a niche of the staff's faves.

OMG, I soooo think Outlaw should like totally be the Number One character of all time...um...cause...she like rockz and is hellakewl and stuff. :p All hail the Doorknobs!

crawler_17
Sep 9, 2003, 08:27 pm
None of my favorites yet, but still a good list. I guess Shatterstar won't make it, but that's cool with me, I can't help it I'm one of very few who don't hope he's dead.:p

HavokThePowerful
Sep 10, 2003, 12:58 am
i liked this can't wait to see who is the next set

Mike Gonzalez
Sep 10, 2003, 03:15 am
Psst... Colossus for numero uno.

DancinFool
Sep 10, 2003, 10:27 pm
Originally posted by Al Harahap
He is also blessed with extraordinary luck that has saved his proverbial behind more than once.

Actually, this is incorrect. Longshot's extraordinary luck couldn't have saved his proverbial behind, because "extraordinary luck saved his behind" isn't a proverb.

Somebody slap me. Please.

Especially if Multiple Man and Cypher aren't on this list.

The Fury
Sep 11, 2003, 12:49 pm
Good list. I think that the top ten X-Characters on this list will pretty much be the ones that starred in the movies.

heybub
Sep 12, 2003, 12:53 am
If you take only this criteria - originality, popularity, iconability, and impact - Wolverine has to be number one on the list by a wide margin.

However, if you add "Importance to X-Men history" to it than it most certainly has to be Professor X. All things 'X' revolve around Professor X, he's the leader AND the damn book is named after him.

The top 5 should play

1. Prof. X
2. Wolverine
3. Magneto
4. Cyclops
5. Jean Grey

Those are the five most important characters ever created in order. Though, alot of staffers are super geeks whom hate Wolverine, they invariably have to retain a semblance of credibility and realize he's the top disciple of the X.

Tan K.
Sep 12, 2003, 01:11 am
The criteria for the order was in a nut shell : All of the above. We took popularity and importance into account. To each person that means something else.

Jordan T. Maxwell
Sep 12, 2003, 01:56 am
well, there's enough lovers as there are haters of Wolverine on staff, and some of us can be objective. Oh, not me...but see, it all balances out. That's the beauty of democracy...

Besides, if he loses the popular vote, he can probably take the electoral college in a walk. ;)

lavar78
Sep 12, 2003, 05:48 pm
Magik at #39 is not a good sign. I shudder to think of all the worthy New Mutants who didn't make the cut: Wolfsbane, Sunspot, and, worst of all, Cypher (my favorite). I still think Sam and Dani have a shot (if a long one). It's a shame, because I still think Claremont's best work was with the NMs, not the X-Men. For the record, my faves:

10. Mirage - Such a realistic (and likable) character
9. Storm - The consummate X-Man
8. Jean Grey
7. Cannonball - Even more than Kitty, Sam's grown up right before our eyes
6. Karma - I think MTU #100 is the finest intro for any character
5. Magma - A visually stunning, slightly arrogant fish out of water - what's not to like?
4. Magneto - 'Nuff said.
3. Magik - So complex, yet so simple
2. Colossus - The heart and soul of the X-Men
1. Cypher - The cream of the crop

Honorable Mention to Wolfsbane, Angel (Warren), and Synch

David Santee
Sep 12, 2003, 07:38 pm
Alright you Colossus fans, we need to get together, kidnap the rest of the ComiXFan staff and make sure they all put Pitor on the top of this list! Not Storm, not Wolverine, not Cyclops.....COLOSSUS!

/fanboy

Sorry, got a little out of controll there....but seriously, there are plenty of x-characters that deserve to be on this list.


Banshee- I sort of expected him to be the 30-40 range...I hope he didn't drop off the list a personal top 20....

Rogue and Gambit- While I personally abhore this duo, I expect them to make the top 10. they have been the star of many story arcs over the years. I was sorta hoping one of them would drop to the bottom, but I guess there is no luck for me.

Beast, Archangel and Iceman- Where is the love for the Original 5? All five should be in the top half, and I'd rather see any of these three top Jean and Cyke.

Magneto- With four villians in the bottom quarter, I expect many more in the top part, with Mags leading the way. Apocolypse, Sinister, Juggernaut....most people who are making lists are forgeting the dark side, but I don't think the ComiXfan staff did. I expect at least 10 villians in the top 30.

Nightcrawler- running a close second to Colossus, Kurt is by far my favorite current X-man..but I fear that all the Austen bashing may drop him off the top half, even though he deserves top 10 status.



My personal list?



20 Banshee
19 Arcade
18 Warlock
17 Mystique
16 Dazzler
15 Cyclops
14 Strong Guy
13 The Shiar
12 Sage
11 Prof. X
10 Angel
9 Jean Gray
8 Iceman
7 Storm
6 Wolverine
5 Beast
4 Magneto
3 Shadowcat
2 Nightcrawler
1 COLOSSUS!

coolyguy
Sep 12, 2003, 10:45 pm
I truly hope Dazzler is #1. Her history is such a spanned and interesting one. She is the classic reluctant hero who has evolved gradually overtime.

Elliot Vazquez
Oct 2, 2003, 02:32 pm
I'd also place Magik much higher on the list and I'll tell you why.

There was an obvious attempt at adding a great amount of history to this character. She was quite unique in the X-men lore. As a matter of fact, she had a whole life outside of the X-men canon. She truly epitomized being an outcast, even among mutants, since she was a lord of Limbo. She dealt with demons. Her own teammates didn't trust her at first. She was scary! And plus, she was still a girl with feelings. I remember one quote from an early New Mutants issue that Illyana said:

"They (The New Mutants) find it so easy to laugh. I am just starting not to cry."

That adds so much depth to a character that many people can associate with.

While her death had its own special impact, the character of Magik had much more potential to explore in the future. (Did someone say Dr. Strange's disciple as Sorceress Supreme?)

Lupin
Nov 20, 2003, 08:28 am
And if it's Wolverine, I'll choke myself to death.

Wolverine should be no 1., not because of his popularity or anything, but because he's the deepest and most 'real' character in the X-universe. I mean, you've got Cyclops making the top 5 (why? just cause he was the first one?) and Jean at 2 ("watch as I strike an elgant pose in the background as my husband rambles on..."), and these two come across as the most one dimensional people in comicdom. Wolverine on the other hand was the first X-man to stand alone, independent of the team, and he still does that better than anyone else. "The best there is", indeed. And that, my friends is what makes 'character', the ability to overcome weakness and stand by yourself, strong and proud. As the man himself might say, "You can't stand alone, you got no business standing."

Cyclops - Team = Lame.

Goon
May 6, 2004, 07:00 pm
Deadpool should have been much higher! I mean 36!? Come on hes a lot better than some of those guys up on the list right now.. O well..

hexx
May 14, 2004, 04:15 am
Yeah i agree w/ Goon Deadpool should've been higher