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raul grau
Sep 22, 2005, 02:30 pm
<img src="http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/columns/fliacbs.jpg" hspace=10 align=left border=0 alt="Fear and Loathing in a Comic Book Store logo">By A.W. Pemberton

Freak Kingdom

There’s an aspect to some comic stores that regular comic readers may find disturbing. Many will try to avoid a store that contains this kind of menace; such is the level of discomfort it inspires. I am talking about, of course, the presence of gamers. If you haven’t had this experience, then you probably should consider yourself lucky. However, my extended exposure to gaming culture has taught me that all is not what it seems.

The first thing I noticed when I began my job was the inordinate amount of noise generated by a small number of freaks playing a strange card game that I couldn’t understand. I’d seen these people before, when I'd visited the store as a customer, but only now did I realize that they were permanent fixtures. "How long could I maintain?" I wondered. "How long before I start raving and jabbering at these boys? What will they think then?" The Fear was coming on, I could feel it. A freak out was definitely in the cards, and I knew that once it started, I was finished. In the outside world, these people were considered too lame to live, and were suitably mocked into hiding, and this, apparently, was their hideout. The sovereign territory of the Gaming Geeks. I could handle short periods of this stuff, but extended sessions might cause irreparable mental damage. I might never be able enter a comic store again.

"Ye Gods, how did I get myself into this mess?" I thought, as panic washed over me. Nothing can describe the terror I felt - I was trapped in here with a group of potentially dangerous king-freaks, with no recourse to stop their truly terrible noises. This was their turf, and anyone who didn’t like the scene would be swiftly destroyed. Noticing they were all sitting on steel chairs (suspiciously like the kind that professional wrestlers get hit over the head with), I began searching the room for something I could defend myself with, if things got ugly. The fire extinguisher was my best option. I could use it at range to give someone a face full of frozen CO2, or create a smokescreen to facilitate a quick dash out the door, or just swing it round wildly and clock any poor fool who got too close. Yes, the perfect weapon.

Happily, no such conflict ever occurred. Within a few weeks I stopped noticing the sound, it became the normal background noise of the store, although I never did make any sense of what they were talking about. After a time, I began to see my own hypocrisy; these people were no different than me or anyone else - their trip was just a bit weirder, and hence, harder to understand. I never had to use the fire extinguisher on them, although, in hindsight, I should have; it would have been good for them - and for me, too.

Magic Tournaments were always the craziest in terms of Gamer madness. On those days the place was so full with them that there was no room for other customers to move around the store. One time, a customer who had barely navigated through the sea of weirdness quietly commented to my Boss and I: "I feel sorry for you guys. How can you stand this line of work?" "Oh, we like it. Its groovy," my Boss replied, smiling. "Yeah, what’s wrong with you?" I added. "Somebody’s gotta do it!" He looked at us strangely for a second, then averted his eyes while he paid for his stuff, and left swiftly without saying another word. "Oh well, another lost customer," I thought to myself. "Scared off by a bunch of geeks. What a sissy."

A comic book store is no place for the half-bright. It is only suitable for those who are full-minded or have none at all. Any person in between these categories becomes severely confused the second they enter a comic store, usually reacting with either fear-filled shock or with mocking derision, in an ignorant attempt to assert some self-important authority over what they don’t understand. They usually can be seen running with their tail between their legs, never to return. Comic stores do seem to have some kind of strange, mystical power that keeps out the self-absorbed, those who believe themselves too cool to enter. Geeks will often enter in search of sanctuary when accosted by hostile forces in the outside world.

Periodically, episodes not unlike the following would unfold. They usually began with some paranoid fool bursting in, wild-eyed with terror, yelling:
"You gotta help me! There’s some big guys outside, and they want my blood!"
"Why? What did you do?"
"Nothing! I was just walking past them, and they started following me. I
think they’re probably Lebanese."
"Bull****. You said something to them, didn’t you?"
"No! C’mon, man, can’t you let me out the back or something?"
"No way. If they come in here, I’m giving you up straight away. For all I
know, you deserve whatever’s coming to you."
"Nooo! You can’t!" he shrieked, "They said they were going to slice me up! Oh, god, I can’t die! I’m too young!"
"This is a place of business, not a safehouse for trouble-makers like you. Now begone! You’re disturbing the other customers," I said, fully aware that, apart from the two of us, the store was completely empty. At this, his shoulders slumped, conceding the fact that he was doomed. He turned slowly and trudged out, never to be seen again, with any luck.

Looking back, perhaps it was Stockholm Syndrome that got me through my time there. I don’t know. I did have some good times, in a fairly strange place, and in the end, that’s all I could’ve asked for.

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A.W. Pemberton is a big fan of opium.

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The opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the writer, and are not reflective of Comixfan or its other staff in general.

James Groves
Sep 22, 2005, 03:18 pm
Happily, no such conflict ever occurred. Within a few weeks I stopped noticing the sound, it became the normal background noise of the store, although I never did make any sense of what they were talking about. After a time, I began to see my own hypocrisy; these people were no different than me or anyone else - their trip was just a bit weirder, and hence, harder to understand. I never had to use the fire extinguisher on them, although, in hindsight, I should have; it would have been good for them - and for me, too.

A comic book store is no place for the half-bright. It is only suitable for those who are full-minded or have none at all. Any person in between these categories becomes severely confused the second they enter a comic store, usually reacting with either fear-filled shock or with mocking derision, in an ignorant attempt to assert some self-important authority over what they don’t understand. They usually can be seen running with their tail between their legs, never to return.

I hear this one. When i first walked into my LCS and found some comics i liked, i went and stood in the queue to pay for 'em. Then, out of the blue comes this young woman with an action figure, shouting how it was the best thing since sliced bread and that it made some really cool, weird noises. She then started to move it back-and-forth towards my face for about 30 secs. Thus then began a conversation between the comic book shop owner, action figure buyer and myself - with me saying absolutely sod all. I stood there transfixed, in a state of bewilderment, not quite knowing what to say or how to respond to such a comment; or how to join in a conversation that i found...quite scary. I think i must have given her a funny look or my silence made her feel awkward, cuz she sorta backed away. I just remember me nodding my head at all the right points and smiling when required...

Even though i've got used to the people in my LCS, and i chat with the guys who run it quite frequently, there's always the odd discussion that springs up that i find myself not quite knowing what to do. I guess i'm one of those guys who's inbetween and can't get on the same wavelength at times - even though i'd like to, mainly cuz i have (mostly) the same "geeky" interests and hobbies that they do; just not to those extremes.

A.W. Pemberton is a big fan of opium.


:LOL:

spinarakboi
Sep 22, 2005, 04:42 pm
um.. i dont get the meaning of this... perhaps i got lost... but i dont see a problem it's something that was there since the beginning (??)

Drew Shirley
Sep 22, 2005, 04:56 pm
um.. i dont get the meaning of this... perhaps i got lost... but i dont see a problem it's something that was there since the beginning (??)

Not in the industry as a whole it wasn't.

The rise of incorporating gaming stuff (en masse, anyway) came after the market crash of the mid-90's, as a way for comic shops to attempt and diversify their flagging business.

I've had similar issues. I've gone in to buy comics, and couldn't get any damn service because the cashier was too wrapped up in a game of Magic or Vampire. Once they actually ROPED OFF the comic section because they were holding a Magic tournament (that included 6 people or so). You couldn't get to the books, nor was anyone manning the register. And when people WERE coming in, the gamers were looking at them like "Why are you here!?".

And look, I've got no problem with gaming. I even partake from time to time. But when it becomes a hinderance to what you're CLAIMING is your chief mode of income (e.g. comics) there's a problem. And frankly, walking in to a store in which the staff is engrossed in their own little world and cloistered off from everything else isn't very appealing to me as a customer. I don't want to have to go over to a table, tap a guy on the shoulder and say "I need you to put your cards down so you can check me out." If you want to run a game shop, for the love of god call it a game shop.

russbrett77
Sep 22, 2005, 06:30 pm
And look, I've got no problem with gaming. I even partake from time to time. But when it becomes a hinderance to what you're CLAIMING is your chief mode of income (e.g. comics) there's a problem. And frankly, walking in to a store in which the staff is engrossed in their own little world and cloistered off from everything else isn't very appealing to me as a customer. I don't want to have to go over to a table, tap a guy on the shoulder and say "I need you to put your cards down so you can check me out." If you want to run a game shop, for the love of god call it a game shop.

There's a sad reality facing many comic shops these days: Their owners are crappy business men. You really have to love comics in order to open up your own shop. The money just isn't there for someone to do so because of the potential financial reward. As such, the people running the places are more like you and me as opposed to Donald Trump, Jack Welsh, or even Ken Lay.

When people with no business savvy try to run a business, problems are bound to ensue.

Bookman
Sep 22, 2005, 07:51 pm
Like anything, Comics attract fanatics, the crazed far right who seem obsessed with their chosen books. I knew a guy who used to run a store in my hometown who was actually punched in the face by a (crazed?) Green Lantern fan who somehow held him responsible for the end of "Emerald Twilight". Others have had petitions handed to them regarding particular issues or events. Its insane. On the other hand, the majority of comic readers are personable, laid back souls who can spend hours in their local store (I count myself among them) discussing this and that from DC, Marvel or one of the other publishers. The current talking points in my local are the new Ghost Rider, House of M, and whether you can think of a good explanation for your spouse as to why you've spent around £100 on "Kid's Stuff". Its just that, as with anything, the crazies stick in your memory more than the rationals.

Dylan McKay
Sep 23, 2005, 03:59 am
We do have some gamers in my shop, but they tend to stick to their table unless they're buying stuff. So I gots no problem with them, sometimes it is a world that I will just never understand. Fortunatly, my shop is well run and so there are never cases where there's no one behind the desk, unless they are all busy getting stuff for customers, which is understandable.

There are times where there are conversations that I wish to back away slow from. In which case, there's an area in the shop where few people look, and I can put my books down and re-examine my purchasing choices until it is safe to venture to the counter. Fortunatly, it's totally inconspicuous because I'm constantly examining my weekly choices and can easily spend over half an hour in the shop just deciding what to buy.

Ovid
Sep 23, 2005, 07:13 am
We don't get gamers in the shops I go to (that I've seen). But at one the counter is constantly surrounded by the friends of the teens at the register. They use it as a place to hang out. While they're personable and helpful enough, there's always an awkward moment when you feel like you're interrupting or intruding into a private scene. It's just alienating and unprofessional, IMO.

Kevin Sutton
Sep 23, 2005, 11:28 am
I don't particularly see any difference in behaviour between the gamer patrons or comic patrons or anybody else who frequents the (so-called) comic stores. Nothing about it seems wierd to me. To me they are just other customers at a store.

spinarakboi
Sep 23, 2005, 02:42 pm
I guess i've never been to a place that was just comics. If they sell trading card games there then they should have right to be there also... and if they don't i don't get what they'd be doing there in the first place... even if comics is the main focus of the store.

rabidfangirl
Sep 23, 2005, 05:02 pm
Gaming has completely infiltrated my local comicbook store.

Just one quarter of the shop is devoted to comics. They have the basics coming in weekly, a couple graphic novels, and some boxes filled with old issues. Then, a mammoth space devoted to the Warcraft nuts who meet on a nightly basis. My LCS is apparently THE place for Warcraft fanatics. When I first started going to them, I asked the guy behind the counter if they really stay open to midnight (every night except Sunday). He said, "Yeah, from 8-midnight, it's all gamers". I believe him too. There's always a group pushing little diecast Warcraft figures around a green astroturf covered table.

Every store in my city has its quirks. My store is the gaming store. Another is anime central. And another specializes in graphic novels, hundreds of them. I've only been to one purely devoted to the comic book and it's too far away to go to regularly.

I don't think I mind the gamers so much. I play WoW online, but what these tabletop gamers do is very mysterious and foreign to me. They do their geeky thing; I do mine. We're all one big geeky subculture. Why not coexist peacefully? ;)

Rory
Sep 23, 2005, 06:46 pm
I hear that.My LCS is much more connected to gaming and crap instead of comics.I have never had a conversation with anyone in there about comics.

Its disturbing when I'm in there because it feels as if everyone is watching and judging me.

Z. Julian Cenac
Sep 23, 2005, 07:34 pm
Yea. Crazy gamers.

I'm not going to make fun of the people who play these games as I know a few of them. But these games and comics go hand in hand nowadays as they both represent geeks.

As a person who reads the occassional comic, I'd say that not all comics are geeky in the slightest. I could, however, say that the gamers are. but, on the other hand, gamers might not call themselves geeks.

For example...yesterday I happend to be waiting for a class to start. Some people next to me were crowding around something. I looked. It was one of those PSP "keep up with the Joneses" things. They looked dam 'nerdy' to me. Ironically, I'm sure they made fun of people who play the fantasy card games.

But PSP is said to be 'cool'. This fantasy stuff is called geeky along with comics. Now that's a double standard. maybe it's just people being lackeys and following fashions and peer pressure. Alot of people i know used to go in for the fantasy stuff. They quit when it was 'uncool'. So I've got to give some respect to the people who carry on just because thye like it. I'm sure some people on here have been abused because they read comics. Yesterday 2 wankers had the nerve to make fun of me looking at a comics site ... behind my back. You know that's spineless. Luckily enough I was engrossed in the research I was doing in the other open window. I'm sure those same people don't criticize/criticise the PSP.

If the PSP stops being cool, it will be appearing in comic shops (which will probabaly be known as Nerd Outposts by then), and people will have moved on to the next 'cool' thing to waste their money on and 'keep up with the Joneses'.

So it makes sense grouping the 'uncool' stuff together. But don't lose hope. Sometimes the 'uncool' becomes ... 'cool' again. I'm sure Jessica Alba said that she reads the Fantastic Four comics. Whatever a celebrity says we must do ... because they are cool ... because everyone says they are cool. But who tells them in the first place?

Z

Howard Roark
Sep 24, 2005, 02:01 am
My local comic book shop smells like B.O. because it's small and is always full of fat, sweaty gamers playing dungeons and dragons or magic. And the owner is terrible, one time he was sitting in the middle of the shop, in a chair, fast asleep and I had to get one of the gamer freaks to wake him up just so that I could check out.

So I go to the comic shop in the next town. It's a great shop and worth the extra twenty minutes to drive.

Ann Nichols
Sep 27, 2005, 10:51 am
My heart bleeds. I didn't encounter a comics shop until I was in graduate school (1976-1977). Try being an older teen and having to buy your comics in a book, grocery, or drug store when they were considered stuff for grade school kids.

Edward Ainsworth
Oct 10, 2005, 11:32 pm
Actually, im finding currently that a major problem with my local comicshop is that theres not enough custom. I live in england, and one of the major problems we have is that the comic shop i visit, and LOVE (Whatever Comics) is a small comics business run by a husband and wife team, with two shops. The husband is a massive DD fan, and the wife is very, very talkative. The major problem they seem to have is the preconceptions of the people outside the comics world.

My mum goes to pick up my comics for me while im Uni in Cambridge, and she goes with her friends. Luckily they are cool parents and get me the stuff, but the preconception is that comic shops are "seedy" places, where guys in coast ruffle through plastic boxes, and make little squeels of glee when they find a rare issue of Moon Knight, or Jimmy Olsen.

The other problem i have currently, is the Girlfriend issue. a guy above said something about justifiying why he spent 100 on "kids stuff". My girlfriends very supportive of my hobby, and buys me random things, the fact is, your average no comic buying friend/girlfriend/family member is scared crapless of going into these places because of the owners and clientel. Countless times i've been stared at, and my girlfriends been approached because shes a good looking girl in a comicshop. Weird? Extremely.

My girlfriend loves buying me gifts but can't go into the comicshop, because she feels threatened. How Weird is that?