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Brian Wilkinson
Apr 10, 2002, 09:26 pm
<a href="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/covers/xtxmen012.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/images/covers/xtxmen012t.jpg" align=left alt="X-Treme X-Men #12"></a> Reviewer: Brian E. Wilkinson, bewilkinson@yahoo.ca
Quick Rating: Excellent
Story Title: Second Front

Storm and Gambit are captives of the alien, Khan, but can the rest of the X-Treme X-Men survive the invasion from Dimension X let alone rescue their teammates?

Written by: Chris Claremont
Art by: Salvador Larroca
Letters by: Tom Orzechowski
Colors by: Liquid!
Assistant Editor: Lynne Yoshii
Editor: Andrew Lis
Editor In Chief: Joe Quesada
President: Bill Jemas

In today’s comic book industry you can hardly go a sentence without mentioning the phenomenon that is The X-Men. The sales of any comic dealing with the vast canon that X-Men have generated are sure to go through the roof as well as being met with critical acclaim. What is an even greater guarantee of success is to attach one man’s name to that x-title as fans around the globe sit up, take notice, and buy as much as they can. That man? Chris Claremont.

Not only is Chris Claremont the man, who over 25 years ago managed to almost single-handedly save a floundering series called Uncanny X-Men from cancellation, but also helped to bring in the silver age of comics and a renaissance age of sorts for the characters. After his 17-year run on the book, many tried to duplicate the results of this tireless work with varied results. Sure, we got a lot of great stories, but the magic that was Chris Claremont just wasn’t there. After a ten-year absence, he finally returned to his characters and new fans and old welcomed him with open arms. Sure, he was a bit rusty at first (who wouldn’t be after such a long absence, not to mention dozens of creators who have put his creations through a slew of new experiences) and his complex tales were deemed a bit too much to garner that precious new audience that Marvel sought in the wake of the X-Men feature film.

So, what could Marvel do to please both its long-term fans, as well as one of their most prized writers? The solution seemed simple: create a third core X-Men title, give it a distinctive spin (X-Treme X-Men) and allow Chris to go crazy. Perfect.

In only 12 issues, Claremont has reminded fans of what it means to love the X-Men. His stories and characters are fast paced, filled with character development, with the themes of love, friendship, and the war against fate. Their goal is to find Destiny’s diaries that contain vital information about the future and the coming trials the X-Men are to face. Knowledge is power, and devastating power if allowed to fall into the hands of their enemies. The challenges are many and though they’ve lost two of their own (Beast due to severe injuries and Psylocke’s death at the hands of Vargas), Storm, Bishop, Thunderbird, Red Lotus, Slipstream, Lifeguard, Sage, Gambit, and Rogue stand ready to do their part for Xavier’s dream of peace between man and mutant. Under the pen of Chris Claremont and the pencils of the incredibly talented Salvador Larroca it would seem that a new age is upon us, and Chris Claremont is at the head of it once again.

MAJOR rambling aside, I really liked issue #12 of the series. Despite my misgivings at another villain deciding to make a female member of the team his queen (Khan is after Storm this issue, and Rogue was sought after by the Shadow King in the X-Treme X-Men 2001 Annual), I’m really pleased to see that there is a lot more than meets the eye to Khan. In the first few pages, we get a glimpse into the mind of this man, and more than ever I’m convinced that despite his intentions of conquering the Earth, this is not and evil man. This shows that Claremont is more than capable of writing a ‘villain’ capable of depth and emotion, and that the lines between ‘good’ and ‘evil’ are not always as clear as we would like them to be.

After a rather dull issue #11, I was ready and eager to see what one of my favorite writers had in store and I was not disappointed. Almost immediately I was wowed by the size and scope of the space station that Khan uses as his base, and in the use of the Venom-like symbiote that covered Storm’s body, and then attached itself to Shaitan to make the warrior appear to be her physical duplicate. This, more than anything, convinces me that Khan is a man to be feared and respected… it is no wonder he commands the utmost faith of those who follow him.

Still, one has to wonder if Khan knows what he’s gotten himself into. Earth, as over 60 years of Marvel continuity has proved, is impossible to take over. It has survived the Phoenix, multiple assaults from alien invaders, and has repelled Galactus, the eater of worlds. What chance does an alien army have? Perhaps Khan should have done his homework.

Despite the need to rescue both Gambit and Storm, the rest of the X-Men find themselves caught up in defending Madripoor against the threat of the alien invaders as well as the damage both sides are causing as a result. Bishop, Thunderbird, and Rogue show that they are quite capable of dealing with the threat from above while Lifeguard and Slipstream, the two newest team members who aren’t quite as experienced, rescue those in the crossfire. Obviously there isn’t a lot of character development during sequences such as these, but it is worth noting that Slipstream does not apparently need to be physically there in order to teleport other people. The scene in question is where Lifeguard uses her powers to rescue a family in a building, and just before everything collapses around her, she radios Slipstream who promptly teleports them. If this is going to be a consistent part of Slipstream’s bag of tricks, this would make him an invaluable asset. He would never have to be physically present, could damage enemies as well as friends, and would be a great way to pull any of them out of danger. That being said, he should just go and free Gambit… oh, I know, I know, nothing is ever that easy.

My favorite part of this issue comes in the conversation between Slipstream and Thunderbird as the life-changing ramifications of Davis’ decision to become a mutant are finally hitting him. Davis imagines what most of us do, that it would be ‘cool’ to have a mutant ability that sets us apart from everyone else. That allows us to do wonderful and fantastic things… but with this power comes a whole other world of problems with it. Though touching, I couldn’t help but feel a great sadness for Davis… Welcome to the X-Men, Davis. Hope you survive the experience.

Sage continues to be a focus for mystery and intrigue. Here, it is revealed that she watched as Viper nearly killed Storm and she did nothing to stop it. Sage also gets into an argument with Lifeguard about what Sage did to her brother, as well as her desire to do something similar to Lifeguard herself. Just when I think Sage is loosening up and becoming part of the team, she comes across as so cold and calculating that her description of being a ‘living computer’ works as much for her personality as it does her power. Sage is someone who definitely needs to be kept an eye on… especially if you add on the hint that Rogue’s powers seem to have been ‘jump-started’ to which Sage replies “Really? I hadn’t noticed.” Maybe she needs TWO eyes on her at all times.

Larroca’s pencils on this issue capture the magnificence of the alien culture. The space station, street corners, and the uniforms of Khan’s army all work brilliantly together. It’s one thing to challenge your artist to create new kinds of clothes for your characters to wear, but Claremont challenged Larroca to create an entirely new species. Many seem split over the lack of inks used in X-Treme X-Men but I really like the effect. It gives all of the characters a softer look and makes the colours practically leap off the page. It also gives a slightly grainier look to the page that makes the textures, people, and environments seem more realistic.

Oh, and did I mention there was a brief appearance by Vargas in this issue? No? That's interesting... ;)

Though I wasn’t thrilled at all with last issue, I must say that #12 met and exceeded all expectations I had for this arc. In fact, I think this has been one of the best issues of the series yet. Its blend of fresh characters, fast-paced action, and incredible stories has made this the x-title to watch. Every member of the X-Treme cast gets a moment to shine in this issue as the story propels itself along to the inevitable conclusion. It is my sincere hope that Claremont can keep up his award-winning work and that this series continues on for many years. No one, and I mean no one has ever written the X-Men as well as this man. With the talent of Salvador Larroca keeping this book looking so good, I have no doubt that it is destined for the greatness that only the X-Men books of old have met so far.

{I may be nitpicking, but you gotta do what ya gotta do.}

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Stormy
Apr 10, 2002, 09:48 pm
wow... incredibly prompt review, Brian!. Couldn't have said it better myself (although I just tried to over in the main X-Treme #12 thread before I saw this :) )

Brian Wilkinson
Apr 10, 2002, 09:53 pm
Prompt? I guess so.. it's a good thing I type over 90wpm... that, and we here at X-Fan are trying to get a jump on the competition by having all the news fit to print up as soon as possible for all of you!

Ben Hutton
Apr 10, 2002, 10:06 pm
With some of us succeeding better than others. I can't even get the issues this fast!

Twilight
Apr 10, 2002, 10:36 pm
Great job on the review. I feel cheated. I didnt read the issue yet. LOL

mar420x
Apr 10, 2002, 11:14 pm
Great review, Brain.
Keep em coming. Man, I hope Marvel considers putting out this arc in a TPB format. My fingers are crossed since I dropped
X-Treme after issue #8. X-Treme seems to be back on track.
Peace out. Be real.

Brian Wilkinson
Apr 10, 2002, 11:33 pm
I hope Marvel considers quoting me on the next trade ;)

Thanks for the kind words, but it's guys like CC and Larroca that make it easy for me to look good.

russbrett77
Apr 11, 2002, 01:07 pm
"Oh, and did I mention there was a brief appearance by Vargas in this issue? No? That's interesting... "

Umm, what? I have no idea what you're referring to. Was there an appearance by Vargas? I don't remember seeing him (although my memory isn't so hot anymore).

Great review. Claremont is certainly slipping back into his old form (except for "I'M LIFEGUARD," could have done without that).

Anyone else think the scenes with Davis and Thunderbird have been a little homo-erotic (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

Brian Wilkinson
Apr 11, 2002, 01:23 pm
Vargas was 'seen' sharpening his blade on one of the pages... and pictures in destiny's diaries have shown him fighting 'storm' so perhaps he's about to confront Shaitan

CeciliaReyesLuv
Apr 11, 2002, 01:50 pm
Is it me or does Sage looks Goth? Its like in the comic covers she looks normal and then inside she looks goth. Not that there's anything wrong with that but if they r gonna make her a goth do it or if its just an error, correct it. The whole issue rocked, Sage right now is the one getting all the spotlight, her saying that she didnt noticed Rogue's powers is weird since she's very aware of everything around her...could it be her doing something to Rogue while she sleeps? or maybe these 2 are working together to try and restore Rogue without saying anything? Time will tell!

russbrett77
Apr 11, 2002, 03:56 pm
"Vargas was 'seen' sharpening his blade on one of the pages... "

You're right. I didn't make the connection when I read it last night. Thanks.

Zachary Palisoc
Apr 11, 2002, 04:24 pm
Looking back on the picture of Storm and Vargras in issue #5, I'm unsure of the picture on the left is Khan or Vargas because of the head, because they both have the same forehead. And THAT sword... I'm not sure if the sword Storm's holding is Khan's or not. Claremont's teasing and foreshadowing on this part is maddening!

-Z

Kevin Woodside
Apr 11, 2002, 06:02 pm
Whoa! I had no clue that was Vargas! I thought it was Khan. Man, this book is great. And a raving review - very well sound.

~W~

Benjamin Ong
Apr 12, 2002, 05:17 am
Brian, being one who's not read X-Treme for sometime, I'm thinking of reading this issue.

Great review, and thanks for being on time ;)

atxbomber
Apr 12, 2002, 06:13 am
Finally. I've been increasingly dissapointed with X-Treme X-Men since about issue 5, but #12 has finally renewed my faith in this book.

Very pleased.

Benjamin Ong
Apr 12, 2002, 07:06 am
Okay, atx has finally made me read this issue. Have to wait till Sat, though...

ultimateX
Apr 12, 2002, 07:49 am
good review!

i like issue #12 so much that i read it more than 5 times before putting it down!

as usual, the artwork is spectacular, especially storm in her "queen" attire.

sage... hmnn... i dont know what she has up her sleeve, but im pretty sure that she caused that telepathy/ telekenetic powers of rouge. i also believe that she has a clue about lifeguard's origin.

davis... poor guy. now he nows how to be an x-men. im pretty sure that he'll catch up with his sister. i like his powers, but i hope chris will give him an extra one to make him MORE interesting.

lastly, vargas. goodness. he's back to kick some x-men butt. i hope he doesnt claim any more lives, though a vargas-storm match- up is definitely a much- awaited moment.

question: is vargas in madripoor? check the background while he is sharpening his sword. it shows the tower. i dont know. maybe the confrontation bet. storm and vargas will come on the next couple of issues.

good work salva and chris!!!

Benjamin Ong
Apr 12, 2002, 08:10 am
Btw, how long is this Invasion from Dimension X arc?

Thanks in advance.

Wolverine
Apr 12, 2002, 08:12 am
Great Review. I am getting this tomorrow and I hope it will be great.

stormwatch
Apr 12, 2002, 09:05 am
Great Review Brian

Originally posted by xpawn
Btw, how long is this Invasion from Dimension X arc?

Thanks in advance.

at least two more issues, my guess though is four. But that is just a guess.

I loved Khan, Sage, Shaitan, Davis, and everything in this issue. It was great. And how the team is working really militarily in this issue, with the three experienced ones attacking. the newbies with less offensive powers doing rescue, and Sage getting information.

I liked the scene between Bishop and Rogue. And Vargas with Thaiis was an interesting little addition. I loved that part.

And Sage, wow, I love her character, she is interesting to say the least.

And as for Dimension X, it reminds me a lot of the Star Wars: New Jedi Order series. And there are some parallels.
Dimension X = Yuuzhan Vong
Both invaders who come from afar and are adept at conquering.
Shaitan = Yomin Carr
Advance Scout and very deadly combatant. Is the one Getting ready for the coming of the invasion. Also has a Oil Slick that helps disguise the wearer for infiltration and to disguise there true appearance. Much like the Ooglith Masquer.
Khan = Shedao Shai
Both honourable and general that lead there armies. Both have held/hold captives. Although, Shedao Shai wasn't in love with anyone. Both love to fight and are extremely good fighters.

Sorry about that, but its been bugging me. Although I think its extremely fascinating. There are a lot of similiarities, but there also a lot of differences between the two.

And back to Vargas. I figure Claremont has something in store for this guy. Vargas has one of Destiny's diaries. The one that has the information on this invasion. I am so curious about the next title.

And I am curious, how it will tie into New, if the rumours are correct. I have some ideas from this issue about that.

And the use of the holographic Hulk, Sabretooth, and Wolverine, well that was cool. When I first saw it I was like, first Vargas, and now Sabes and Wolvie, too neat. And then I found it was an illusion and thought, oh my, nice April Fools joke Claremont. It had me the Fool. And of course it works very well with Sage and Rogue.

I can't wait for the next issue. and Brian, loved your Review. This issue deserves it.

TTFN
Stormie

Merlin
Apr 12, 2002, 11:29 pm
It looked to me like Khan was Vargas. Maybe thats why Vargas doesn't havehuman or mutant DNA.

Wolverine
Apr 13, 2002, 12:00 am
I hope Vargas is not Khan. It would show that Claremont has been planning ahead but still I don't think it is a good Idea

CeciliaReyesLuv
Apr 13, 2002, 03:06 am
Originally posted by Merlin
It looked to me like Khan was Vargas. Maybe thats why Vargas doesn't havehuman or mutant DNA.

I thought this too, i was a little confused b/c of the scenes with Khan & Vargas...but then I realized when I saw the female twin of Vargas lackey's...but still I think that Varga & Khan are somehow related.

And I'm I the only one dissapointed with Davis reaction? I mean he was all "...lets do this, oh I'm such a big man, oh blah blah blah..." and now its totally one more of the oh I'm a mutant oh its sad. He should've kept the pro mutant attitude instead of this one.

stormwatch
Apr 13, 2002, 03:25 am
Originally posted by CeciliaReyesLuv


I thought this too, i was a little confused b/c of the scenes with Khan & Vargas...but then I realized when I saw the female twin of Vargas lackey's...but still I think that Varga & Khan are somehow related.

And I'm I the only one dissapointed with Davis reaction? I mean he was all "...lets do this, oh I'm such a big man, oh blah blah blah..." and now its totally one more of the oh I'm a mutant oh its sad. He should've kept the pro mutant attitude instead of this one.

He is in a war. Right smakc dab in the middle of it. He was young and naive. He took the power for good reasons, but now he wished that he hadn't, although that is not true. He just dosn't want to see the War and the carnage and stuff. He didn't want to be a hero, and he was kind of jealous about Heather being a mutant, but then, he becomes one for a good cause. And then he gets tossed into a war, oh fun. Sorry, but I feel for the guy.

Stormie

spinarakboi
Apr 13, 2002, 03:29 am
I wouldn't like the Vargas is Kahn either. Too me it never seemed that way (only the sword sharping scene was confusing) and if it was I'd have to say I'd be dissapointed. Vargas is super evil, Kahn is very interesting... but villians sorta but they should not be the same >_<

Silverbolt
Apr 13, 2002, 04:47 am
Yup this iss is X-Tremes best so far. The storie was awsome and couldnt be better. Now Sage Sneaking around with some secrets on her make it even better than ever. What could she be up to?

Oh and Vargas is not Kahn , I repeat Vargas is Not Kahn , sorry just had to say it again. Just wait and see.

NDpunkX

Andy James
Apr 13, 2002, 07:21 am
it definitley is vargas sharpenning his blade. for one hes got human skin and second of all you could see thais his female bodyguard in the backgroud. but where was he it looked like the view was in mandripoor??

Silverbolt
Apr 13, 2002, 05:35 pm
Originally posted by nova
it definitley is vargas sharpenning his blade. for one hes got human skin and second of all you could see thais his female bodyguard in the backgroud. but where was he it looked like the view was in mandripoor??

Yup the one sharpenning his sword was Vargas, but I know for a fact that Vargas and Kahn are not the same person on the contrary to what some are speculatin.

NDpunkX

Sage4ever
Apr 13, 2002, 06:23 pm
Sound like someone's got inside information!

Colour me jealous!

Silverbolt
Apr 13, 2002, 07:57 pm
Originally posted by Sage4ever
Sound like someone's got inside information!

Colour me jealous!

Well I dont wanna say anything I shouldnt say, or at least just yet! ;).

X-Treme X-Men RULES!!!

NDpunkX

Feral Wolverine
Apr 13, 2002, 08:56 pm
I can't help but wonder a) if Mr. Claremont isn't planning on giving Rogue control over her power in the near future (remember in Ages of Apocalypse she finally had control over them and it was somewhat clear that some of that future was bound to a happen) and b) if Sage's recent encounter with Shaw hasn't left her somewhat altered and more susceptible to his "jobs" for her.

CPunkDude
Apr 13, 2002, 10:49 pm
I really dislike the idea of Vargas being related at all to Khan. I mean, by this point in the comic, both characters have been developed and established to such a point that they have unique identities and characteristics. I have no problem with two major villains. In fact, they have been characterized so well (especially Khan, whose motivations and personality were excellently detailed in a matter of pages) that I like both of them a great deal.

CPunkDude
Apr 13, 2002, 10:53 pm
I can't help but wonder a) if Mr. Claremont isn't planning on giving Rogue control over her power in the near future (remember in Ages of Apocalypse she finally had control over them and it was somewhat clear that some of that future was bound to a happen) and b) if Sage's recent encounter with Shaw hasn't left her somewhat altered and more susceptible to his "jobs" for her.

I think both of these issues are developed extremely tightly in this issue. It seems to me that something big is going to happen very soon with Rogue's power. With all the manifestations she's been showing lately and her seeming to finally control some of her powers(the use of tk and tp in this issue particularly) lead me to believe that CC is setting up a major rogue event.

I also am very intrigued by the Sage plotline. I think it's very possible she has betrayed the team in some way, as much as I don't want to be right about that.

Mononoke
Apr 14, 2002, 04:09 pm
First off, I loved the ish. It alluded to many things that are going to happen and I for one am most intrigued. It looks like we're building up to one hell of a climax.
Reading through the previous posts though, I'm really surprised at the lack of 'how come Rogue's suddenly got TK and TP that's not fair' posts. It seems quite a dramatic character development and one that will affect her as a member of the xmen from here on in. I mean, these are major powers to permenantly aquire on top of her existing flight, superstrength and absorbtion. I'm very interested to see how this will affect her and whether this may be the first step in controlling her powers. I thought that this would of kicked up a lotta fuss here...(wanders off to other forums in search of argument.)
I don't know about Sage betraying the team as such, but I think she definatly has information, possibly from one of the diaries, on the outcome of the invasion. She states that she can't 'do nothing' in regard to boosting the other's powers, (with their permission or otherwise.) This suggests she is trying to prevent something happening or even change the outcome of the invasion, eg she already knows something. After all, it would only take Sage a glimpse at a page of diary for her to have access to it forever. I feel like something bad happened as a result of the khan invasion, and that Sage is trying to alter that somehow. But then apparently destiny's diary is always accurate, and trying to change that is futile. Bleh. But Sage knowing the outcome of certain events is certainly consistant with her allowing Khan to take Storm. I'm inclines towards that as her motivation rather than her really being a double agent or something. which she might be, but not necessarily for the other side.
Well with both Cassandranova AND Khan trying to invade/destroy the planet simultaneously there's sure a lot going on in the world domination camp right now. Oh, and I still don't like slipstream.(Shudders.)

Ben Hutton
Apr 14, 2002, 10:47 pm
I don't think Rogue's Tp and TK are permanent. More like powers she manifested for the occassion.

Stormy
Apr 14, 2002, 10:57 pm
Originally posted by Ben Hutton
I don't think Rogue's Tp and TK are permanent. More like powers she manifested for the occassion.

Hmm... where have I heard this before? :idea: Oh yeah -- Lifeguard! I wonder whether there's room on the team for the both of them. How curious......

KidX
Apr 15, 2002, 03:21 am
WOW! Brian is a amazing reviewer and writer. He summed up EVERTHING I love about this issue and Claremont is general! Good work m'man! ;)

unit04
Apr 15, 2002, 04:09 pm
the proof that vargas isn't khan should be in the last vargas panel, when the twin opens the curtain and you see the tower that khan is in with storm.

Brian Wilkinson
Apr 15, 2002, 10:40 pm
wow... all this praise for the review and I'm not paying anyone to say it!!

thanks guys, it's much appreciated.

Silverblade
Apr 16, 2002, 11:53 am
I really liked this issue. Even though Storm and Rogue are two of my favorite characters I liked reading about Sage. She is sometimes cold, ruthless, and dangerous, but she's more than that. She's complex or something. She's an egnima!

stormwatch
Apr 17, 2002, 12:04 am
Originally posted by Silverblade
I really liked this issue. Even though Storm and Rogue are two of my favorite characters I liked reading about Sage. She is sometimes cold, ruthless, and dangerous, but she's more than that. She's complex or something. She's an egnima!

And she seems to care, too. At least for the fate of the world.

Silverblade
Apr 17, 2002, 10:32 am
I can't wait for Vargas to return. He was kicking some major butt last time. Maybe Rogue or Storm could give him a double dose of payback. I mean with Rogue being able to use everyone's powers practically and Storm with her own awesome powers they could take him!

Brian Wilkinson
Apr 18, 2002, 07:43 pm
I must admit that I'm surprised this storyline is going into 'extra innings'...as it will still be going with issue #15. Must be a BIG story!

Toño Anaya
Apr 19, 2002, 04:11 pm
Originally posted by Brian E. Wilkinson
I must admit that I'm surprised this storyline is going into 'extra innings'...as it will still be going with issue #15. Must be a BIG story!

Hi Brian, excellent review. If future issues are anything like #12, then I will be reading this title on a monthly basis for years to come. Seeing that preview cover on issue #15 has whet my appetiite!

This issue was quite enjoyable. I have to admit that I've been a little overwhelmed with all the new characters and wasn't really excited about this story arc. But then XX #12 came around and changed by expectations. The story flowed with plenty of suspense. I'm really hating Viper...and I can't say that I've felt that way about a comic book villain in a long time. I just hope that once this arc is over, we'll be able to see some one-on-one interaction between the the present team members (like Jean and Ororo's wonderfully portrayed scene in XX #9) so that we can get to know them better. I'm also hoping a classic X-men member or villain gets thrown in. Best, Toño

Brian Wilkinson
Apr 19, 2002, 08:10 pm
To see my take on this interaction, plus other comparisons to the other x-books, you should take a look at the brand-new X-Fan Roundtable in the Featurs forum!

CPunkDude
Apr 20, 2002, 12:49 am
One thing about this book that constantly amazes me is its consistent excellence. CC clearly knows what he wants to do with this book and in what direction he wants to take it. Every issue builds upon the last one and foreshadows future events in a way that indicates he has a grand plan for the series, and the Destiny's Diaries. For example, in earlier issues, the Diaries predicted things that are just now coming to fruition. This is a nice touch for faithful readers to the series, and it makes the series more compelling. Of course, everything else about the book is consistent too. The characterization is pitch-perfect, the plots are exciting but always have a deeper purpose, and the artwork is phenomenol. This is bar none the best comic out there right now. and Issue #12 was the best yet. It just sets up so much to come, as Rogue's battle with her powers, Storm's attempts to free herself from Khan's grasp, the return of Vargas, the possible death of a major character, and finally some more complex character development for T-bird III and Slipstream.

Benjamin Ong
Apr 20, 2002, 03:22 am
Despite the consistency, I still can't bring myself to follow X-Treme... but you're getting there, Brian. You've influenced me before ;)

Psyguy
Apr 25, 2002, 09:03 am
When i first saw Sage and Rogue interact i thought they were going to be the new Mystique and Destiny, but its Sage and Storm who seem to be the sneaky pair.

The issue was amazing its one of my favourites and i cant wait for some more Vargas action. It does seem obvious however that its the Shaitan/ storm that will be killed this time.

However not every Character was developed, when Red Lotus showed up i thought excellent but now hes in hospital again not doing anything. I was hoping we would see some Rogue/Red interaction. If they got Red helping them why not Terri Baltimore as well it seems like every character is getting a side-kick.

Oh and i agree Davis and Thunderbird are getting a bit too friendly (if ya know what i mean) ....well we had Mystique and Destiny....

Oh also, can anyone give me some background information on Viper and how does she know Psylocke? I think Viper is kinda cool.

Rogue having Tp and Tk is getting stupid, and can Chris please remember Sage is a telepath. its like do we need any X-men anymore lets just let Rogue get on with it.

Whats the point of Thunderbird okay he was Betsy's bloke but now she's dead hes already chatting up Bimbo Heather, but his powers boring and seeing as hes no longer a rookie because we got the others. Hes better than he was but i still dont really see him as an X-man.

However seeing as this is a reveiw ill shut the hell up. Claremont still doing a sterling job good work Chris cant wait for the rematch with Vargas!!!

lightstar
Apr 26, 2002, 01:00 am
Vargas! Man did I miss that. Cant wait to see him and Storm go at it (or is it Shaitan?) X-treme takes me back to the old X-men plots. Sage gets more interesting each issue. I think her and Storm have private discussions (remember they discussed Davis being a latent mutant without anyone around) which could explain why she acts they way she does. I hate to think she is screwing the team without them knowing it. And Rogue just kicks a**!!!

Psyguy
Apr 26, 2002, 08:45 am
Storm probaly knew Viper would stab her and told Sage to let it happen

Kahio
May 2, 2002, 03:47 pm
I'm kinda late with this, but what the heck.

I agree on this ish beeing some of the best in the series, and of the books I bought this month at least, it shone through as the best (If i hear anyone say "what about New X men" i'll chop their head off!:)).

I agree on the amazing review, you captured what we all felt!:D

Where to start? Well did this issue lack ANYTHING at all!? Everything was top notch, especially Salva, and yet Wizard don't rate him as one of the best ortists out there.... his talent and style are unique and amazing! :)

As for the story..WOW! Storm was amazing, i mean that endinG! And you can totally understand that she may truly feel for Khan, he isn't an evil man, he just wants the best for his people, which makes him even more hatable:p As for the Thunderbird/slipstream moment, kudos to CC, there was a lot of emotion there and it really showed through, and it's a reality that the book seems to reflect so well (As where most of the other books are glamourising the mutant status...). Bishop and lifeguard, although they didn't get much attention, still had their moments... Sage...what can you say about this woman with complete certainty!? NOTHING! she is a mystery wrapped in an enigma! Right now we dont have enough to base any conclusions on, but it does seem that when she sets herself a goal, she will do anything in order to achieve it, even if it means playing with powers and people.... As for Rogue, again, a great issue for her! We're seeing some of the power this girl has and i agree that in a few issues the whole power situation will culminate into a very Rogue centric and "life" changing story arc (I aint complaining). And the Tk and tlphy ARE permanent, like the claws (i'm unsure about the optic blasts...).

anyway, all i have to add is BRILLIANT through and througH:D!

k.