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Robin Lewis
Mar 6, 2008, 06:34 pm
<a href=" http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/previews/marvel/0308/UNCX496_col.jpg" target="_blank"><img src=" http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/images/previews/marvel/0308/UNCX496_colt.jpg" alt="Uncanny X-Men #496" hspace=10 align=left></a> Reviewer: Brett White, brett.stephen.white@gmail.com
Story Title: X-Men: Divided – Part Two

“These are things that the X-Men have cost me…”

Writer: Ed Brubaker
Artist: Mike Choi
Color Art: Sonia Oback
Letterer: VC’s Joe Caramagna
Assistant Editor: Will Panzo
Editor: Nick Lowe
Executive Editor: Axel Alonso
Editor In Chief: Joe Quesada
Publisher: Dan Buckley
Published by: Marvel Comics (www.marvel.com)

Spoilers ahead

I’m going to start with the story itself since, if you’ve read this issue, you know that the happy happenings, retro or otherwise, are not what matters with this issue. I loved the last issue. For the first time in almost ten years I felt like I was reading a normal, non-hyped, and relaxed issue of Uncanny X-Men. Good characters acting like good friends with no big mega-event on the horizon. This issue definitely stays on that path with Brubaker continuing the fanciful time warp plot introduced as a cliffhanger last issue. I have no real investment in this storyline and I sincerely doubt it’s going to go anywhere fresh and exciting, but I welcome that after being force fed events for a hundred issues. If anything this feels very much in line with classic Claremont. Brubaker’s bar scene with Kurt, Peter and Logan is definitely a nod to the classic “He’ll Never Make Me Cry” (Uncanny #183), complete with Logan asking Kurt if he is looking for Juggernaut. As a longtime reader, I’m elated to see these old friends of mine getting along so well.

And now I have to reference the other nod to “He’ll Never Make Me Cry” and the one tiny little tidbit that is, currently, making my head explode. That issue from almost a quarter century ago deals with Peter’s grief after dumping Kitty Pryde. This issue deals with Peter’s grief after losing Kitty Pryde. So there you go. Two short lines of dialogue referencing the assumed death of Kitty Pryde completely destroy this issue for me and point out everything that is currently wrong with Marvel Comics.

The timeline of events implied by this revelation are completely and utterly impossible. Kitty Pryde was last seen alive and well in X-Men #204 after the events of Blinded By the Light. That issue flows directly, with little to no time passing, into The Messiah Complex one-shot, kicking off the storyline that Kitty Pryde was noticeably absent for. The other half of the equation can be found over in Astonishing X-Men where Joss Whedon has constructed a tightly paced twelve-issue storyline that has been running for two years now. Kitty Pryde is alive and well over there, currently hitching a ride on a giant alien bullet that’s been fired at Earth. That story is concluding in April, fingers crossed. It’s obvious, given the two lines of dialogue in this issue, that Kitty Pryde does not return to Earth and that the entirety of Joss Whedon’s Torn and Unstoppable are meant to take place in the half hour between X-Men #204 and Messiah Complex. This is unacceptable.

As a fan of the X-Men, the least I ask is to be entertained. I will put up with a twelve-part epic that doesn’t have an ending (Rise & Fall of the Shi’ar Empire) because Warpath finally got his due. I will put up with Professor Xavier still being alive after getting shot through the brain because John Romita Jr.’s art is gorgeous. I will put up with Wolfsbane joining up with a pack of killers because it made Peter David write an amazing issue of X-Factor. I will not put up with being cheated out of the surprise of the death of Kitty Pryde and the aftermath that followed because a creative team could not follow through with a deadline for an issue they requested themselves or because the editors could not deny Whedon his grand finale that so tragically does not fit in with the other comics that completely abandoned Astonishing over a year ago. For a character that has been around for nearly thirty years and has come to symbolize everything that the X-Men represent, this is downright blasphemous.

Brubaker gets a couple of tears out of Peter in this issue. That feels awkwardly okay and maybe even about right for someone whose loss was a couple weeks ago...but he’s with Kurt and Logan. If anything those two should be as upset as he is. Instead, Logan is telling Peter to toughen up. Are you serious? The fact that Brubaker had these three playing practical jokes on each other last issue when a woman who was, arguably, one of the most important women in all three of these men’s lives just died infuriates me. Yes, I think they should be able to move on, but as readers we have been robbed of seeing these characters grieve. Logan telling Peter to toughen up is him also telling the readers to toughen up about a death that we haven’t even read yet.

The other inconsistencies that come up when placing Astonishing in its apparent context are staggering in number. The students that were just brutally attacked in Blinded By the Light are immediately being taught by Wolverine in Torn. Cyclops is devastated after losing his son in Blinded By the Light and is now going about his daily routine in Torn. I know that all of these are nitpicks and the kind of gripes that I usually hold back. Like I said, I’m overlooking Wolverine being in Russia while also tracking down Mystique, leading X-Force, and moving into the Avengers Apartment this month. This is completely different. Marvel never asks us to rationalize Wolverine’s jaunts across the globe and they actually make fun of it. Now Marvel is asking us to completely rationalize this mess that they have made of continuity by allowing Kitty to be “lost” in a book that is also lost en route to the retailers every month. All they had to do was say “no” to Whedon’s ending as a consequence of the book never being on time.

Whedon is a genius, though, so maybe Giant-Size Astonishing X-Men will include some crazy time travel deus ex machina that will make all this make sense. Maybe Kitty will only be lost in space, thus making Logan and Kurt’s casual attitude a little easier to accept. Until then, this issue shines a spotlight on Marvel’s current problem as a company. You cannot desperately try to make your titles connect while also ignoring continuity and allowing books to be delayed.

Mike Choi’s art is fine, but it’s not to my liking. It’s very stiff and posed and while it’s pretty, I find it the comic book equivalent of watching Make Me A Supermodel. Seriously, Logan should be on a runway.

If you are a fan of retro-style action and drama, then Uncanny X-Men is doing a fine job of that. If you are willing to overlook the gross mischaracterizations in the aftermath of a major character’s death and Marvel’s insistence on inconsistency, then you won’t have the conniption fit that I’m having right now and you’ll probably give it a higher score.

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Nick Costanzo
Mar 6, 2008, 06:45 pm
Thank the sweet lord Kitty is dead. She's been far too many writers' favorite over the years, its become tiresome. She's a genius, but also a ninja, but also a hacker, but also her phasing powers gain less and less restraints, etc. She was perfect to the point of being broken, the stories will be better without her.

Havok-X2
Mar 6, 2008, 08:07 pm
only a 2 1/2? The issue was at least a 4 for me

Alphabet Pet
Mar 6, 2008, 08:20 pm
A couple of thoughts, first we have no proof Kitty's dead at this point, all we know is that she's "lost". Second, this was no surprise after reading Messiah Complex as she was the only major player to be left out of that story completely. Characters should have been reacting to her absense during that storyline.

Second, while I agree that Kurt would be badly shaken about losing Kitty, Logan... Well Logan has lost one of the most important women in his life too many times for it to have any resonance really. The list is too blasted long...

Commander Breetai
Mar 6, 2008, 09:06 pm
Nah, they won´t kill her. At least not permanently, she´ll be lost, but there is no body. [Be rude to annoying toerag]So, suck it, Constanzo.[/Be rude to annoying toerag]


;)

Lambi
Mar 6, 2008, 09:28 pm
I havent read it yet, so this is how I found out! Was there not a spolier warning, or did I just not see it?
Man, I cant believe they did that to her! Shes one of my favorites. And in Astonishing too, that book is seperate from the rest, not only because its Wheldon's own comic, but also because of its constant lateness. It shouldn't have anything that relevant that wil affect the other titles in it for those reasons.

Kizmet
Mar 6, 2008, 09:32 pm
I don't see the point in giving UXM such a harsh review for what is essentially a problem with AXM and Marvel's policy with regards to AXM.

Nick Costanzo
Mar 6, 2008, 09:33 pm
I don't see the point in giving UXM such a harsh review for what is essentially a problem with AXM and Marvel's policy with regards to AXM.
Seconded.

EDIT: This toerag has good taste :P

heffy
Mar 6, 2008, 09:59 pm
I bet this issue was supposted to come out after Giant Sized Astonishing X-men #1

Remember.....the solicit is that one bites the dust.

Because of this issue. Its probably safe to know that it was indeed Kitty that bites the dust.

....unless she gets lost in space. but she's far away and will get pretty hungry

Xavier Disciple
Mar 6, 2008, 11:41 pm
Why does Cyclops not seem to know what a Celestial is? I'm pretty sure that he along with the original X-Factor encountered them in circa X-Factor #40's

cattmoe
Mar 7, 2008, 07:21 am
Why does Cyclops not seem to know what a Celestial is? I'm pretty sure that he along with the original X-Factor encountered them in circa X-Factor #40's


Along those same lines... is the Celestial in San Francisco explained somewhere else? Emma seemed to know about it and I just wondered if it was part of a story from some other book. Just seemed very weird...

DrGoodwrench
Mar 7, 2008, 09:27 am
Along those same lines... is the Celestial in San Francisco explained somewhere else? Emma seemed to know about it and I just wondered if it was part of a story from some other book. Just seemed very weird...

Is that the one from Neil Gaiman's Eternals series?

Jason Grasso
Mar 7, 2008, 10:32 am
While I strongly agree with the review (the lack of emotional resonance after a character's death typically infuriates me; I had the same feeling last issue of UXM when Cyclops and Emma frollicked in the Savage Land after Xavier's fatal disappearance), I also have to wonder if Marvel or anyone else should be blamed for what was essentially the byproduct of lateness of AXM.

And i say that with the utmost respect and fandom for that title, which I still think is better than UXM or XM. But I don't know how else Marvel, Brubaker, or Carey was supposed to work out of the corners that John Cassaday essentially put them all in with his months-long lateness. I think Joss Whedon should have implored the writers to not use Kitty in Blinded by the Light so that the timeline would be easier to fit. However, it was going to be a lot tougher for Marvel and the X-writers to not have its All-Star X-Men during its big event crossover. I mean how many issues of Astonishing have even come out in the last 8 months? 2?

So clearly the blame goes all around. I'd like to see if Mephistoey Quesada or one of the editors or writers does one of those post-mortem things on one of these sites when Giant Size AXM comes out next November.

Brett White
Mar 7, 2008, 11:40 am
I don't see the point in giving UXM such a harsh review for what is essentially a problem with AXM and Marvel's policy with regards to AXM.

I definitely was trying to sort that out when I gave the book its rating. I decided that the glaring editorial error that is so indicative of Marvel's big probably of the last 7 years strongly outweighed the positives of the just-okay story and the passable art. There is a point in giving UXM a harsh review because it is, and just was, completely affected and disrupted by the problems with AXM and Marvel, in my opinion.

Kizmet
Mar 7, 2008, 02:49 pm
I'd still rather see this sort of review attached to AXM, but from other reviews I've read I anticipate seeing a glowing review for that book, with maybe a few complaints blaiming UXM for ruining the ending.

Where as I feel that AXM, with it's constant delays has created a no-win situation for the other books. And yet AXM generally gets reviewed as if it exists in isolation. I want to see the bad reviews attacted to the source of the problem, not the title that caught the fall-out.

Mightiest_mortal
Mar 7, 2008, 02:57 pm
I can't believe you've not just learnt to ignore Astonishing X-Men continuity problems yet, it must be driving you insane. I learnt to ignore them completely.

The problem is that Whedon has been given so much freedom and astonishing has been given SOOOO much allowance for being late that it's got past the point of being ridiculous. I'm a big Whedon fan (Angel+Firefly are two of the greatest shows ever made.. bar only Dexter maybe) but IMO Astonishing has been incredibly overrated. Sure some of the conversations have been catchy and conversations have been good, but the rest is all just same old same old. Morrison, like it or not, it always felt new and different, I just don't get that from Astonishing, it just feels like anything else ive read before.

From a continuity standpoint.. there's no way that Astonishing can possibly make sense now.
The whole run on the series is meant to take place in just a few days... but the first issue, if you remember that far back, was meant to have been the start of the next school term, after Planet X. It had a whole school assembly, and Wolvie being annoyed with Scott for being with Emma.

If you actually think about then, the current events in AStonishing all must have happened over a couple of days.. FOUR YEARS AGO... its set in the past.

The only way for it to make sense from a continuity perspective is to say that Shadowcats been dead for four years, but nobodies brought it up until now... and that a Skrulls been impersonating her around the mansion this whole time... without anybody noticing either.

Kizmet
Mar 7, 2008, 03:03 pm
There is room for a gap of considerable time between Dangerous and Torn. I tend to set Gifted/Dangerous as occuring before HoM. Then Torn starts up considerably after HoM, after CW even, once the everything had settled down a bit.

The problem comes in with Torn starting with the school still being open, Unstoppable following imediately after Torn and Kitty being alive in Blinded by the Light but dead or 'gone' by the time Unstoppable ends.

Rcdino1
Mar 7, 2008, 11:57 pm
I couldn't agree more with the reviewer. Two lines of dialogue have put into disarray the anticipation of the conclusion of the "Breakworld" storyline. Somebody dropped the ball ...and angered a whole slew of X-fans.

...Just...so ...disappointing..... :scat:

Xavier Disciple
Mar 8, 2008, 11:29 am
I couldn't agree more with the reviewer. Two lines of dialogue have put into disarray the anticipation of the conclusion of the "Breakworld" storyline. Somebody dropped the ball ...and angered a whole slew of X-fans.

...Just...so ...disappointing..... :scat:

You're kidding right? Anyone who has read Messiah Complex should have been able to piece together that Kitty wasn't coming back. We've seen everyone from Astonishing BUT her... even Armor I think.

Mightiest_mortal
Mar 8, 2008, 11:44 am
Well, it was never ever going to be Scott or Emma.

Beast had the whole Endangered species thing and is now off looking for Charles so it wasn't going to be him.

Collosus is going to be joining the Defenders.

Wolverine is... lets face it, the only chance there was that he wasnt going to come back was if MArvel wanted to launch a "Wolverine in Space" series to go along with all his other solo books and team books he's appearing in (and he would still be in X-Men regularly anyway).

The only people it ever could have been were Armor and Kitty and as we've seen Armor regularly in Messiah.. which is set after AStonishing. it had to be Kitty.

Kizmet
Mar 8, 2008, 12:27 pm
I couldn't agree more with the reviewer. Two lines of dialogue have put into disarray the anticipation of the conclusion of the "Breakworld" storyline. Somebody dropped the ball ...and angered a whole slew of X-fans.

...Just...so ...disappointing..... :scat:

How long were the other books supposed to continue on not acknowledging Kitty's being 'gone'? AXM has to end before MC started because the school was still open for business when Torn began, were the other books supposed to go on until August or whenever with Kitty's closest friends completely ignoring that she's disappeared?

The last issue of AXM was supposed to be out by now, but surprise, surprise the schedule slipped AGAIN. How is that the UXM's creative team's fault?

Nick Costanzo
Mar 8, 2008, 12:56 pm
Disappointed the fans?

To this fan, Kitty's death, and the fact that it was spoiled, is like an early christmas present :D

Andrew Jastrzembski
Mar 8, 2008, 08:51 pm
How long were the other books supposed to continue on not acknowledging Kitty's being 'gone'? AXM has to end before MC started because the school was still open for business when Torn began, were the other books supposed to go on until August or whenever with Kitty's closest friends completely ignoring that she's disappeared?

The last issue of AXM was supposed to be out by now, but surprise, surprise the schedule slipped AGAIN. How is that the UXM's creative team's fault?Marvel should have fired the enitre creative team for AXM long ago. end of story.

I was kinda of disappointed to have the end of AXM ruined but i really don't care. I was disappointed in the last issue to find out that there was going to another issue. How long can they drag this comic out?

I did like this issue of UXM but it wasn't anything special. A lot of storylines need to start up in the aftermath of the crossover plus 500 is right around the corner so i don't expect UXM to get exciting for at least a few more issues.

BlingstonHughes
Mar 9, 2008, 01:24 am
Let's do the numbers - AXM #1 came out when I was a college undergrad.
I now have a Master's degree and this team's run still isn't over, and it's not because they've been cranking out the issues.

The most irksome thing about this whole debacle is that AXM was enjoyable because it kinda did its own thing and steered clear of what was going on in the mainstream MU. But now they want their cake and eat it too by having this pretty big event happen that all the other writers need to deal with. So, Whedon won't acknowledge House of M, but he's expecting Brubaker to hold off on revealing the conclusion of his run?

Robin Lewis
Mar 9, 2008, 08:30 am
Disappointed the fans?

To this fan, Kitty's death, and the fact that it was spoiled, is like an early christmas present :D

You have a cold, hard splinter of ice where a man's heart should be, Nick.

Cerberus_Rex
Mar 9, 2008, 01:48 pm
Choi's art is brilliant! I really hope we get to see in the future and not just as a fill in artist. As for the inconsistent continuity...well I'm really not much of a Shadowcat fan. So for me her disapperance is welcome and I've tended to view Astonshing as a complete and seperate entity form the other X-books so the problems with the books place in the X-world haven't bothered me.

Rcdino1
Mar 9, 2008, 03:07 pm
There needs to be more of an effort to coordinate storylines and to keep books on schedule. The acknowledgement of Kitty's "death/abandonment" in UXM #496 before the release of Giant-sized Astonishing X-Men #1 is unexcusable. It doesn't matter how many x-books I subscribe to and read, nor does it matter how manner "hints" were given to Kitty's fate in other books. I read "Messiah Complex" and was quite aware of Kitty's absence. It would have been nice to interpret Whedon's characterization of the Breakworld event before Brubaker went "bar-hopping" with the X-gang in Russia---drinking to Kitty's memory.

I've read comics for a very long time and I miss the days where the merit of great writing and art was measure on the basis of creative expression, open dialogue with associated creative teams AND the timeliness of a book's publication....

fatherjeff
Mar 9, 2008, 05:15 pm
Great review. I am just as frustrated by the lack of continuity. But besides that, you bring up a great point about how Marvel is doing business. While I have loved Whedon's arc by itself, his lack of production has been unacceptable. Marvel has a knack for getting big name writers who write a pretty good story, but have no regard for the industry. There are probably a hundred guys dying to write a solid, fun, MONTHLY book who are just as good if not better than these superstar writers. Yet Marvel is preferring to go with the "shiny objects." Does it sell more books? Not really. In the years that Whedon has been doing Astonishing, they could have been selling twice as many books. In the long run, whenever I see a Hollywood name on a project, I'm gonna find something else to read.

harlekein
Mar 9, 2008, 06:33 pm
I liked this. I could go for a series based around just Piotr, Kurt and Logan on the road.

Nick Costanzo
Mar 9, 2008, 06:53 pm
You have a cold, hard splinter of ice where a man's heart should be, Nick.Yes, and that heart is warmed via kitty's death.

peeper
Mar 9, 2008, 08:24 pm
I liked this. I could go for a series based around just Piotr, Kurt and Logan on the road.

Me too! *waves money in Marvel's direction*

heffy
Mar 10, 2008, 02:26 am
X-Men: Liberators II !!! :)

peeper
Mar 10, 2008, 04:10 am
X-Men: Liberators II !!! :)

...but with good writing and art!

DrGoodwrench
Mar 11, 2008, 10:51 am
Yes, and that heart is warmed via kitty's death.

Doesn't that mean that it'll melt, resulting in your death? Or does it not perform the usual functions of a heart?

HandofGod
Mar 12, 2008, 03:03 am
could it be that Peter meant that he lost kitty as a girlfriend?

emesem
Mar 14, 2008, 12:52 am
could it be that Peter meant that he lost kitty as a girlfriend?


Yeah I'm not convinced she's dead. I vote she makes some sort of sacrifice ala Rose in Doctor Who...alive but cant come back...

erikthered25
Mar 15, 2008, 06:59 pm
I dunno I thought it was a pretty good issue. I think they were trying to keep it light so that it wouldn't devolve into a crying fest. Why cuz they went there to drown their sorrows and happy not be sad.

All this uproar about timelines. Who cares. Astonishing is in a vacuum. If she's dead, she's dead. If she'll alive she's alive. They've spent way too much time catering to Whedon and Cassady on Astonishing Xmen. It's just time to move on with the stories that Brubaker, Carey, and the other X-writers have planned. The whole X-franchise should not go down because of Astonishings lateness. They just got a shot in the arm with Messiah Complex to not capitalize on it would be almost criminal. The main X-books haven't been this good in a long time, you gotta strike while the iron is hot. Marvel is doing the right thing. Letting their writers carry on with their original stories inspite of Astonishing.

I personally think to use Astonishings lateness as a reason to give Uncanny X-men a poor rating should be criminal in itself. If you've been ignoring Astonishing this long, continue to so, or you should have been giving the Xbooks poor ratings from the outset.

Also can we get a little real here, all the comic companies from the big to the small fudge continuity and timelines especially on long running books such as Batman, Superman, Xmen, Avengers, JLA, Green Lantern, etc..etc..etc..cuz if they had to acknowledge every past storyline, it would bog down the storylines they are trying to tell. What did my pops used to say..."it's tight but it's right." This is a business foremost and no one should be able to keep any book in bondage because they can't get a book out on time.

Also Secret Invasion is coming up. Everyone needs to be on the same page and at the same point since Secret Invasion encompasses the entire Marvel Brand/Universe. Marvel has sunk too much money into Secret Invasion to allow a few late books to spoil the crossover. They waiting on Whedon/Cassady when they had the time but with Secret Invasion they can't afford to wait on Whedon/Cassady anymore. There are too many surprises and too many double crosses that will probable occur in the Storyline to let late books hold it up. This is probably the riskiest crossover that Marvel has done in a long time cuz this has the potential to either be really bad or really good. So it needs to be good and everything need to firing on all cylinders cuz they are going to be revealing crap like crazy. That's why they're giving out free copies of this issue called to Secret Invasion saga to make sure everyone including the fans are on the right page. They plan to hit the ground running on this one.



Just my two cents...