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Captain America Jul 29, 2003 10:29 am

Justice League of America
 
Is JLA any good? I have never picked up DC comics, but I was wondering how they function as a team? Are most of the members not nigh-omnipotent beings?

What threats stand a change against such a team? How can creators make them interesting when they have the combined power to level a galaxy?

Who is on the team these days? If push comes to shove in the JLA/Avengers mini, do the Avengers stand a chance?

Feel free to discuss issues, arcs and all that here. This is the JLA equivelant of the New X-Men or X-Treme X-Men threads.

Enjoy.

Ken Boehm Jul 29, 2003 11:16 am

Team right now consists of Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Flash, Manitou Raven, Faith, Atom, Firestorm, Major Damage, and the John Stewart Green Lantern.

I'm waning interest on the book. I have no idea why Mahnke has needed all these fill-ins all of a sudden when he did a pretty solid run of 20 issues or so on Man of Steel.

JSA has really taken it over, IMO

blue Jul 29, 2003 11:22 am

I like JLA so far it has a great run and all the writers for Morrison to Waid and now to Joe Kelly have done a great job alook forward to the upcoming Claremont / Byrne five issues run !

the_union Jul 29, 2003 02:08 pm

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Is JLA any good?
Depends which run your talking about. I haven't really been a DC fan either, but overall the concept of the JLA is very cool. In terms of runs, Morrison's one is very good and so is the 80's. Morrison is more of an "epic" than the early years.


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but I was wondering how they function as a team?
Pretty good. Although their not quite as good as the Avengers, they have Superman, Martian Manhunter, and Batman as overall good leaders. When times get rough, they will use Batman. He has the intelligence.

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Are most of the members not nigh-omnipotent beings?
Again, depends on which lineup. Morrison had around 17 members throughout his run. That included Superman, who IMO is close to a God, or equal to Thor, Wonder Woman, who is a goddess, Martian Manhunter, who has many powers, a fallen Angel, 2 New Gods; Barda and Orion, Kyle as the Green Lantern, who possesses the most powerful weapon in the universe, Steel, who can build tech, Flash, who has access to the Speed Force, which is unlimited, Hourman 3, with the Warlogog, which makes him omnipotent, Batman, who isn't as powerful, but his intellgence makes up for it, a young Green Arrow, Aquaman, who is powerful in his own right, and Tomorrow Woman, who was only a member for a couple of issues. Also powerful. The JLA are designed to be the Greatest Superheroes ever composed.

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What threats stand a change against such a team?
Cosmic and Godly threats, which we have seen many times.

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How can creators make them interesting when they have the combined power to level a galaxy?
It all depends on what you like. The X-Men are not about powerhouses, so if power isn't your thing, than the JLA isn't a book for you. However the 80's series was more of a comedy, than superheroes throwing planets or what not.

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If push comes to shove in the JLA/Avengers mini, do the Avengers stand a chance?
It all depends on who's writing it. Overall many creators have admited that the JLA would win. But who knows?

BLOOF Jul 29, 2003 10:53 pm

Hey, does anyone know, I thought I heard something about Plastic Man coming back. Anyone know if this is true or not?

Kent H Jul 30, 2003 12:50 am

Mahnke's requiring the fill-ins because he needed the time to do the bi-weekly Trial of Fire Arc starting in August.

Plastic Man will be returning, at least temporarily, for the last two issues of the arc. In December, he will be getting his own ongoing series.

After Trial of Fire, JLA will be switching to a rotating creative team system, with different teams doing different arcs, including Chris Claremont and John Byrnes on #94-99. Joe Kelly and Doug Mahnke will be doing a maxi series called JLA: Elite that stems from events in issue #100, which as far as I know will be their last issue of the regular series for the time being.

Captain America Jul 30, 2003 07:12 am

I was thinking about getting this Claremont/Byrne run, or at least a couple of issues to see what its like. It would be my first DC comic...

Does anyone know anything about the arc? Has Chris written JLA before?

SQUIRREL-GIRL Jul 30, 2003 12:55 pm

okay i read the tpb when the new team[led by nightwing appeared]
and i have questions...
1.who is faith
2.what is her powers
3.what happened to aquaman
4.why did klye leave jla and get replaced by other older GL
5.hawkgirl,why did they take her of the team?
thanks...:)

Kent H Jul 30, 2003 02:43 pm

1. It's a mystery that hasn't been revealed.

2. So far, she's shown high levels of telekinesis, and she a "fuzzy feelings" aura that makes people around her instantly like and trust her.

3. There was a big cosmic war that threatened to destroy Atlantis, so it got sent into the past, Aquaman with it. He's back now, dealing with his own issues in his own series.

4. Kyle had some personal issues to deal with in his series, so he left Earth completely, leaving John to take his place in the JLA.

5. Because she belongs to the JSA. She was only on loan.

BLOOF Jul 30, 2003 04:38 pm

Nightwing's team was just replacing the JLA while they were stuck in the past. After they rescued them (and Aquaman), the JLA was back, so there was no need for a replacement anymore. Except, Faith Atom, and Manitou Raven stayed with the team, while Aquaman, Plastic Man, and GL-Kyle left.
Kyle left Earth in his book, after his assistant was beaten very badly because some guys saw him kissing his boyfriend. He got mad, said he lost faith in humanity, and left Earth to John Stewart, who was later invited into the JLA.

Al Harahap Jul 30, 2003 04:44 pm

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Originally posted by Captain America
Does anyone know anything about the arc? Has Chris written JLA before?
Not the ongoing, but he has a mini out right now called JLA: Scary Monsters.

LordofDreams Aug 1, 2003 02:39 am

With Morrison's new contract with DC, does anybody think there might be a chance we might be getting one of those rotating arcs out of him??

BLOOF Aug 1, 2003 03:03 am

That'd be really cool, I loved his first run.

Elliot Vazquez Aug 1, 2003 03:17 am

I was seriously impressed by JLA 50. I don't know about anyone else, but that ending really blew me away.

I'm still a fan of Grant's JLA work. It was really good...a lot better than his X-men run.

Ken Boehm Aug 1, 2003 09:09 am

....Since JLA #50 was written by Mark Waid? :p

Al Harahap Aug 1, 2003 01:41 pm

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Originally posted by LordofDreams
With Morrison's new contract with DC, does anybody think there might be a chance we might be getting one of those rotating arcs out of him??
I don't think so. Morrison doesn't seem to be the type to go back and do something been-there-done-that for him. But who knows? We might see the JLA in his rumoured Supes or Bats run.

Inferno Aug 1, 2003 04:51 pm

Well, I have to at least comment on JLA. To be honest, I am not happy with the book, and I haven't been for quite some time. I preferred it back in the days of the big seven, Green Arrow, Huntress, Zuariel, etc. However, I do not plan on stopping any time soon, as I know it is just going through a slump and 9hopefully, at least) improve.

Ken Boehm Aug 1, 2003 10:59 pm

I know. #83 was terrible, and contradicts what Kelly wrote in issues #78 - 79 regarding pre-emptive attacks (and Superman not acting "decisively" enough). And the way Wonder Woman was over Supes at the end, you wonder "what the hell happened?" She's not "that" kind of friend...

Al Harahap Aug 2, 2003 11:05 am

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Originally posted by Caprcrn78
Well, I have to at least comment on JLA. To be honest, I am not happy with the book, and I haven't been for quite some time. I preferred it back in the days of the big seven, Green Arrow, Huntress, Zuariel, etc. However, I do not plan on stopping any time soon, as I know it is just going through a slump and 9hopefully, at least) improve.
I think Kelly made the right decision to mix it up a little for a while. If JLA stayed just the big 7+Plas + others here and there, it would've gotten old real quick. I don't think the absence of the big guns was ever meant to be permanent. As it is, Manhunter and Plas are already returning in the next storyarc.

Tan K. Aug 2, 2003 09:03 pm

i have mixed feelings on JLA. I respect his writing (Kelly's that is), but I am not getting a deep enough feel on the characters except for maybe Disaster and Faith. I know the big 3 plus the next level of semi big DC heroes are to remain that way, but for me it takes away. I loved the Obsidian Age arc, but that was because it was the big storyline and some characterization. Without the big storyline, the actual characterization IMO is shown to be weak (not necessarily the fault of Kelly...just the company). I am going to keep collecting it through this next arc and judge from there.

LordofDreams Aug 2, 2003 09:06 pm

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Originally posted by Caprcrn78
Well, I have to at least comment on JLA. To be honest, I am not happy with the book, and I haven't been for quite some time. I preferred it back in the days of the big seven, Green Arrow, Huntress, Zuariel, etc. However, I do not plan on stopping any time soon, as I know it is just going through a slump and 9hopefully, at least) improve.

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I think Kelly made the right decision to mix it up a little for a while. If JLA stayed just the big 7+Plas + others here and there, it would've gotten old real quick.

Agreed with both. The reason that the current line up doesn't really seem to be gelling is because Kelly hasn't been handling it the best. The few big guns that are still there now seem like third stringers in an attempt to bring the rest up to a decent level.
On a slightly different subject, though we may never see Morrison on the pages of JLA again, :(, I hope he might do something with Zuariel. He was my favorite character, and what Miller did in paradise lost was amazing, and then Grant killed him. Maybe in the pages of Lucifer (I can only hope).

the_union Aug 4, 2003 12:55 am

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Agreed with both. The reason that the current line up doesn't really seem to be gelling is because Kelly hasn't been handling it the best. The few big guns that are still there now seem like third stringers in an attempt to bring the rest up to a decent level.
On a slightly different subject, though we may never see Morrison on the pages of JLA again, :(, I hope he might do something with Zuariel. He was my favorite character, and what Miller did in paradise lost was amazing, and then Grant killed him. Maybe in the pages of Lucifer (I can only hope).

Why would he appear in Lucifer, when Zauriel is still the guadian of Earth? It would be cool if he did though.

LordofDreams Aug 4, 2003 02:22 am

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Why would he appear in Lucifer, when Zauriel is still the guadian of Earth? It would be cool if he did though.

Even though Lucifer would destroy him easily, I think it would be interesting to see such a battle or team of opposite ends, but when in reality they are so far apart, that the circle brings them back to back. Yeah, I will shut up now.

Robb Welch Aug 4, 2003 02:32 am

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Originally posted by BlooFrog84

Kyle left Earth in his book, after his assistant was beaten very badly because some guys saw him kissing his boyfriend. He got mad, said he lost faith in humanity, and left Earth to John Stewart, who was later invited into the JLA.

Another reason would be: Justice League is currently airing on cartoon network. lots more people watch it than read it so putting John on the roaster might add readership as more people that are watching the show might recognize him over Kyle.

BLOOF Aug 4, 2003 02:56 am

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Originally posted by LordofDreams
I hope he might do something with Zuariel. He was my favorite character,
Mine, too. I left comics before he was killed, and I've only skimmed through the TPB where it happened, so I don't really know all about it, but couldn't he just come back to Earth?


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Another reason would be: Justice League is currently airing on cartoon network. lots more people watch it than read it so putting John on the roaster might add readership as more people that are watching the show might recognize him over Kyle.

That.....is true. I had really hoped that Kyle would be on the cartoon show, 'cause he's really the only GL I know. He was the first one I read, and by then, Parallax had already happened, so there weren't any others. I'm gettin used to John in the book, but I'd still like to see Kyle in the cartoon. Or has he shown up already? I can't seem to remember to wach it.


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