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AVENGERS/JLA #2 ANNOTATIONS
 ComiX-Fan continues its compilation of annotated references for the mammoth Marvel/DC crossover series JLA/Avengers with the release of the list for issue #2.AVENGERS/JLA #2 ANNOTATIONS Writer: Kurt Busiek Artist: George Pérez Colorist & Separator: Tom Smith Letterer: Comicraft Logo Design: John J. Hill For DC: Associate Editor: Stephen Wacker Editors: Dan Raspler & Mike Carlin VP - Editorial: Dan Didio President & Publisher: Paul Levitz For Marvel: Assistant Editors: Mark Sumerak & Andy Schmidt Editor: Tom Brevoort Managing Editor: David Bogart Editor in Chief: Joe Quesada President & COO: Bill Jemas Cover Date: October 2003 Cover Price: $5.95 US $9.25 CAN Wraparound Cover: (from top, left to right) Jack of Hearts, Iron Man I, Captain Atom, Wonder Man, Martian Manhunter, Hercules (Marvel), Photon III, (right to left) Zatanna, Triathlon, Wonder Woman II, Warbird, Vision II, Scarlet Witch, (left to right) Black Canary II, Plastic Man, Wasp, Hawkman I, Red Tornado II, Firestorm I, Superman I, Thor I, (right to left) Quasar III, Batman I, Aquaman, Green Lantern V, She-Hulk, (left to right) Quicksilver, Hawkeye, Black Panther I, Blue Beetle II, Steel III, Captain America I, Atom II, Yellowjacket I, Green Arrow II, Flash III Page 1, Panel 1: The Grandmaster, one of the cosmic Elders of The Universe in the Marvel Universe, first appeared in Avengers (1st series) #69. Krona, or Entropy as he later became known in the DC Universe, first appeared in Green Lantern (2nd series) #40. Krona was also instrumental in setting up events for the Crisis on Infinite Earths.  Page 1, Panel 4: The hand surrounding the universe is a homage to how the DC Universe was created, first shown in Green Lantern (2nd series) #40 and featured prominently in Crisis on Infinite Earths. The hand belonged to the villainous Anti-Monitor, who was seeking to reshape the DC Universe in his own image.Page 2, Panel 6: The being mentioned by the Grandmaster is Galactus, a powerful cosmic entity in the Marvel Universe who first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #48. Page 3: The physical manifestation of Kismet in the DC Universe first appeared in Adventures of Superman #494. The story title, "A Contest of Champions", is a homage to Marvel Comics' first ever mini-series from 1982, Marvel Super Hero Contest of Champions, which also featured the Grandmaster. Pages 4-5: The Avengers from the Marvel Universe battle the Justice League of America from the DC Universe. Members pictured are: (from top, left to right) Green Lantern V (JLA, first appeared in Green Lantern (3rd series) #48), Iron Man I (Avengers, first appeared in Tales of Suspense (1st series) #39), Aquaman (JLA, first appeared in More Fun Comics #73), Thor I (Avengers, first appeared in Journey Into Mystery (1st series) #83), (right to left) Quicksilver (Avengers, first appeared in X-Men (1st series) #4), Plastic Man (JLA, first appeared in Police Comics #1), Captain America I (Avengers, first appeared in Captain America Comics #1), Wonder Woman II (JLA, first appeared in All Star Comics (1st series) #8), Martian Manhunter (JLA, first appeared in Detective Comics #225), Superman (JLA, first appeared in Action Comics #1), (left to right) Vision (Avengers, first appeared in Avengers (1st series) #57), Batman (JLA, first appeared in Detective Comics #27), Hawkeye (Avengers, first appeared in Tales of Suspense (1st series) #57), Flash III (JLA, first appeared in Flash (1st series) #110), Scarlet Witch (Avengers, first appeared in X-Men (1st series) #4). Page 4: Metropolis, home of Superman in the DC Universe, is located south of New York City in Delaware and was first seen in Superman (1st series) #2. The "Siegel Shuster Co." sign is a homage to Superman creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster. The "Marston Industries" sign is a homage to Wonder Woman creator William Moulton Marston. The "Broome St." sign is a homage to Silver Age Flash and Green Lantern creator John Broome. Page 5: The "Dillin Parking" sign is a homage to Red Tornado co-creator and veteran Justice League of America artist Dick Dillin. Page 5, Panel 3: The Squadron Supreme are a team of heroes in the Marvel Universe, currently appearing in Marvel Comics' Supreme Power MAX series, that were originally patterned after the JLA. They first appeared as a team in Avengers (1st series) #85.  Page 5, Panel 5: The Whizzer that Hawkeye is referring to is the third bearer of the name, who first appeared in Avengers (1st series) #85 as the super-fast member of the Squadron Supreme in the Marvel Universe. The original Whizzer first appeared in USA Comics #1 in August, 1941. The second Whizzer, a villain, first appeared in Avengers (1st series) #70 but later took the name Speed Demon in Amazing Spider-Man (1st series) #222.Page 5, Panel 6: The Flash's "Purple Arrow" quip is in reference to fellow JLA teammate Green Arrow II, who first appeared in More Fun Comics #73. Page 6, Panel 1: The "experience with boomerangs" that the Flash refers to is because of his long-time foe Captain Boomerang, who first appeared in Flash (1st series) #117. Page 6, Panel 3: The "Kane" sign is a homage to Batman creator Bob Kane. Page 8, Panel 3: The Bates Cafe is a homage to veteran Superman and Flash writer Cary Bates. The "Wein" sign beneath that is a homage to veteran DC and Marvel writer Len Wein who wrote the third DC/Marvel crossover, "Batman vs. The Incredible Hulk", in DC Special Series #27. Page 9, Panel 3: The Daily Planet is the major newspaper of Metropolis in the DC Universe where Superman's reporter alter-ego Clark Kent works. Located at the corner of Fifth Street and Concord Lane, the Daily Planet first appeared in Action Comics #23. Page 10, Panel 2: The "Swan" sign is a homage to veteran Superman and Legion of Super-Heroes artist Curt Swan. Page 10, Panel 3: The Atom mentioned by Aquaman is Atom II, who first appeared in Showcase #34. Page 10, Panel 5: The JLA'ers being contacted by the Martian Manhunter are (at top) Green Arrow II (first appeared in More Fun Comics #73), (second row, left to right) Steel III (first appeared in Adventures of Superman #500), Black Canary II (first appeared in Justice League of America #75), (third row, right to left) Firestorm (first appeared in Firestorm #1), Blue Beetle II (first appeared in Captain Atom (1st series) #83), Hawkman I (first appeared in Flash Comics #1), (fourth row, left to right) Red Tornado II (first appeared in Justice League of America #64), Captain Atom (first appeared in Space Adventures #33, (at bottom) Zatanna (first appeared in Hawkman (1st series) #4). Page 11, Panel 1: The Speed Force mentioned by Aquaman is an extra-dimensional energy source that is vibrationally attuned to the Earth of the DC Universe. It was first mentioned in Flash (2nd series) #97. Plastic Man's comment is due to Aquaman being the deposed King of Atlantis in the DC Universe. Page 11, Panel 3: The Power Battery mentioned by Kyle (as seen on Page 13, Panel 3) is what gives Green Lantern's in the DC Universe their power. Linked to the central power battery on the planet Oa, each battery could originally recharge its wielder's power ring for a period of 24 hours. When Kyle Rayner took over as Green Lantern of Earth, the 24 hour limitation was removed. Now the ring only needs to be charged periodically. The original battery was first seen in All-American Comics #16, whilst the current battery was first seen in Green Lantern (3rd series) #55. Page 11, Panel 7: Avengers Mansion, home of Earth's Mightiest Heroes in the Marvel Universe, was first seen in Avengers (1st series) #2. Page 11, Panel 9: Avengers members Triathlon (left) (first appeared in Avengers (3rd series) #8) and the Wasp (right) (first appeared in Tales to Astonish (1st series) #44). Page 12, Panel 8: The Avengers being contacted are (top row, left to right) Warbird (first appeared as Carol Danvers in Marvel Super-Heroes (1st series) #13 and as Warbird in Avengers (3rd series) #4), Jack of Hearts (first appeared in Deadly Hands of Kung-Fu #22), Photon III (first appeared as Captain Marvel II in Amazing Spider-Man (1st series) Annual #16 and as Photon III in Avengers Unplugged #5), (bottom row, right to left) Hercules (first appeared in Journey Into Mystery (1st series) Annual #1), Wonder Man (first appeared in Avengers (1st series) #9), She-Hulk (first appeared in Savage She-Hulk #1). Yellowjacket I first appeared as Ant-Man I in Tales to Astonish (1st series) #27 and as Yellowjacket I in Avengers (1st series) #59. Page 13, Panel 3: A Mother Box is a tool used by the New Gods for transportation via Boom Tube, knowledge, healing, detecting danger, transmuting matter, controlling emotions, and much more. First seen in New Gods (1st series) #1. Page 14, Panel 2: The object in the yellow globe is the Ultimate Nullifier, a weapon of immense power in the Marvel Universe which is capable of destroying an entire universe. It was first seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #50. Page 14, Panel 3: Santo Rico is a fictional Central American country in the Marvel Universe that was first seen in Tales To Astonish (1st series) #54. The statue depicts Avengers members Giant-Man I and the Wasp overthrowing the country's former Communist dictator, El Toro, and was first seen in Night Thrasher #17. It was later seen vandalized for the first time in Thunderbolts #11. The "Rosita" name graffitied on the El Toro statue is a homage to Rita Smith, the wife of series colorist Tom Smith. Page 14, Panel 4: Santa Prisca is a fictional Caribbean country in the DC Universe, home to Batman's nemesis Bane, that was first seen in The Question (1st series) #10. Hasaragua is a fictional Central American country in the DC Universe, home to the assassin named Brutale, that was first seen in Batman: GCPD #1. Xochatan is a fictional South American country in the DC Universe that was first seen in Teen Titans (1st series) #1. Page 15, Panel 1: Central City, Missouri, was the home of Flash II and was first seen in Showcase #4. The Flash Museum was first seen in Flash (1st series) #154. The statue on the left is of Flash II, Barry Allen, who first appeared in Showcase #4 and died in Crisis on Infinite Earths #8. The statue on the right is of Flash III, Wally West, who first appeared as Kid Flash I in Flash (1st series) #110 and as Flash III in Crisis on Infinite Earths #12. Page 15, Panel 2: The statue on the left is of Green Lantern II, Hal Jordan, who first appeared in Showcase #22. The picture on the far wall is of the original Sandman, a crimefighter who first appeared in Adventure Comics #40. The statue at the back is of Gorilla Grodd, a long-time Flash villain who first appeared in Flash (1st series) #106 . The picture on the exhibit wall is of Lucas "Snapper" Carr, a long-time associate and honorary member of the JLA who first appeared in The Brave & The Bold (1st series) #28. The exhibit is a homage to the cover of The Brave & The Bold (1st series) #28 which marks the first appearances of both the JLA and Starro the Star-Conqueror, as well as the retconned version of that cover as seen in JLA: Year One #4. The JLA members depicted are the five founding members: (clockwise from top) Aquaman, Black Canary II (retconned to have replaced Wonder Woman II as a founding member in Secret Origins (3rd series) #32 and JLA: Year One #1), Flash II, Martian Manhunter, and Green Lantern II. The statue on the right is of the Elongated Man who first appeared in Flash (1st series) #112. The Scarlet Witch is recalling the battle between Starro and the Avengers from JLA/Avengers #1. Page 15, Panel 3: The Speed Force is an extra-dimensional source of vibrational energy in the DC Universe that was first mentioned in Flash (2nd series) #97. The speedsters depicted in the exhibit are, from left to right, Max Mercury (first appeared as Quicksilver in National Comics #5 and as Max Mercury in Flash (2nd series) #76), Impulse (first appeared in Flash (2nd series) #91), Jesse Quick (first appeared in Justice Society of America (2nd series) #1), Flash I (Jay Garrick,l first appeared in Flash Comics #1), and Kid Flash I (Wally West, first appeared in Flash (1st series) #110, now Flash III). Page 15, Panel 5: Asgard, home of the Norse Gods in the Marvel Universe, was first seen in Journey Into Mystery (1st series) #85. Page 15, Panel 6: The DC Universe incarnation of Olympus, home of the Greek Gods, was first seen in All Star Comics (1st series) #8. Pages 16-17, Panel 2: The DC Universe incarnation of Hercules first mentioned in Whiz Comics #1 and first appeared in All Star Comics (1st series) #8. Hippolyta, Wonder Woman's mother, first appeared in the DC Universe in Wonder Woman (2nd series) #1. In Greek mythology, the ninth labor of Hercules was to obtain Hippolyta's magic girdle, which he did by seducing her. Pages 16-17, Panel 8: The posters depict Teen Titans members (from left to right) Wonder Girl I (first appeared in The Brave & The Bold (1st series) #60), Cyborg (first appeared in DC Presents #26 ), Starfire II (first appeared in DC Presents #26 ), and Raven (first appeared in DC Presents #26 ). Pages 16-17, Panels 9-10: The Black Canary is crouching atop an exhibit dedicated to long-time Flash nemesis the Mirror Master, who first appeared in The Flash (1st series) #105. Pages 18-19, Panel 5: The Orb of Ra is an ancient weapon created from a fallen meteor by an Egyptian priest named Ahk-ton. Unearthed centuries later by Rex Mason, the Orb's energies transformed him into Metamorpho. First seen in The Brave and The Bold (1st series) #57. Pages 18-19, Panel 9: The Asgardian warriors depicted are (from left to right) Volstagg (first appeared in Journey Into Mystery (1st series) #119), Hogun (first appeared in Journey Into Mystery (1st series) #119), Sif (first appeared in Journey Into Mystery (1st series) #102), and Balder (first appeared in Journey Into Mystery (1st series) #85). Hippolyta, as Wonder Woman III, was killed in Wonder Woman (2nd series) #172. Pages 18-19, Panel 10: The Eternity Book is a powerful magical tome created by the sorceror Merlin in the DC Universe that contains a narrative of the entire history of existence to the present day. First seen in The Demon (1st series) #1. Pages 18-19, Panel 13: The Scarlet Witch is pointing past an exhibit dedicated to Colonel Computron, a Flash villain who first appeared in The Flash (1st series) #304. Pages 18-19, Panel 15: The Wand of Watoomb is a mystic artifact in the Marvel Universe that greatly enhances its wielder's magical energies. First seen in Amazing Spider-Man (1st series) Annual #2. Page 20, Panel 1: The costume is that of Robin II, Jason Todd, who first appeared in Batman #366 and was killed in Batman #428. Page 20, Panel 2: Captain America's comment stems from the death of his own partner, Bucky I, who first appeared in Captain America Comics #1 and was seen killed in a flashback in Avengers (1st series) #4. Page 20, Panel 4: The Batcave was first seen in Batman #12. The face on the computer screen is that of Oracle, a.k.a. Barbara Gordon who first appeared as the original Batgirl in Detective Comics #359 and as Oracle in Suicide Squad (1st series) #23. The Batmobile was first seen in Batman #5. Page 20, Panel 10: Metron first appeared in New Gods (1st series) #1. Page 21, Panel 1: Galactus first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #48. Page 22, Panel 8: The Thing first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #1. Page 23, Panel 2: Reed Richards, a.k.a. Mr. Fantastic, the Invisible Woman and the Human Torch II first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #1. Page 23, Panel 5: The Thing's comment of Batman's "small change" refers to the giant penny from World's Finest Comics #30 that Batman keeps as a trophy in the Batcave. Page 23, Panel 6: The time platform that the Thing uses was first seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #5. Page 25, Panel 1: The Watchtower, located in the centre of the Moon's Sea of Tranquillity in the DC Universe, is the current headquarters of the JLA. It was first seen in JLA #4 and modified to its current appearance in JLA #52. Page 25, Panel 2: "Mr. Peepers" is Uatu, a member of a race of cosmic beings in the Marvel Universe known as the Watchers who monitor events of universal importance and are sworn to an oath of non-interference. Uatu first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #13. Page 26, Panel 1: Happy Harbor, Rhode Island in the DC Universe was the site of the JLA's original headquarters, the Justice Cave, as first seen in The Brave & the Bold (1st series) #28. It was later used by the teen sidekicks of Young Justice as first seen in Young Justice #1. Page 26, Panel 9: The Green Bell of Uthool, the Silver Wheel of Nyorlath, and the Red Jar of Calythos are occult artifacts in the DC Universe that can summon three powerful elder demons - Abnegazar, Ghast, and Rath - which were first seen in Justice League of America #10. Big Belly Burger is a franchise restaurant chain in the DC Universe. Page 27, Panel 1: The Black Panther I and his African kingdom of Wakanda in the Marvel Universe were both first seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #52. Page 27, Panel 6: The Medusa Mask is an object possessed by the villainous Psycho-Pirate II in the DC Universe which allows whoever uses it to control other people's emotions. It was first seen in Showcase #56. Page 28, Panel 3: Smallville, Kansas is the town where Superman crash-landed on Earth as a baby in the DC Universe in Action Comics #1. Page 28, Panel 4: The Radioactive Man mentioned by Hawkeye is a nemesis of the Avengers who first appeared in Journey Into Mystery (1st series) #93. Page 28, Panels 4-6: The Casket of Ancient Winters is an object from Norse mythology in the Marvel Universe which contains the legendary Fimbulwinter, a powerful magical frigid force. It was first seen in Thor (1st series) #345. Page 29, Panel 2: Paradise Island, also known as Themyscira, is the Caribbean island in the DC Universe that is home to Wonder Woman's Amazonian race as first seen in Wonder Woman (2nd series) #1. Minerva is the goddess of wisdom in Greek mythology, and was first seen in the DC Universe in All Star Comics (1st series) #8. Hera is the queen of the gods in Greek mythology, and was also first seen in the DC Universe in All Star Comics (1st series) #8. Page 29, Panels 5-9: The Evil Eye is a powerful weapon from the mystic realm of Avalon that was presented by Prestor John during the time of the Crusades in the 12th Century of the Marvel Universe. It was first seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #54. Page 30, Panel 2: The Blue Area of the Moon in the Marvel Universe is home to Uatu the Watcher (see page 25) and was first seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #13. Page 30, Panel 4: Quasar III, cosmic protector of the Marvel Universe, first appeared as Marvel Man in Captain America (1st series) #217 and as Quasar III in Incredible Hulk (2nd series) #234. Page 30, Panel 11: The Spear of Destiny is an artifact of enormous magical power that was used by a Roman centurion to pierce the side of Jesus Christ after he was crucified. In the DC Universe, it was used by Hitler during World War I to keep the allied super-heroes out of Axis territory. It was first seen in Weird War Tales (1st series) #50.  Page 31, Panel 2: The faces on the monitor screen are (from left to right) a Guardian of the Universe (creators of the Green Lantern Corps, first seen in Green Lantern (2nd series) #1), two of the three faces of the Living Tribunal (cosmic judge, first appeared in Strange Tales (1st series) #157), and Thanos (cosmic villain, first appeared in Iron Man (1st series) #55).The chess piece-like figures are:
The "Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots" are (right) Ziran The Tester, a Celestial from the Marvel Universe (first appeared in Eternals (1st series) #19), and (left) Hunab, one of the Millennium Guard from the DC Universe (first appeared in Superman (2nd series) #130). The characters depicted on the roulette wheel are (outer ring) the Silver Surfer (former Herald of Galactus in the Marvel Universe, first appeared in Fantastic Four (1st series) #48) and (inner ring) Adam Strange (space-faring hero in the DC Universe, first appeared in Showcase #17). The CrossGen Comics sigil logo can be seen as one of the planets in the lower left corner. JLA/Avengers artist George Pérez worked for the company on such titles as CrossGen Chronicles and Solus. The Baxter Building, the original headquarters of the Fantastic Four in the Marvel Universe as first seen in Fantastic Four (1st series) #1, can be seen on the original uncropped page on a monitor screen in the bottom left corner, behind the planetary display. Page 32, Panel 1: The Atom II first appeared in Showcase #34. Page 34, Panel 1: Apokolips, a desolate machinery-coated planet, was first seen in New Gods (1st series) #1. Page 34, Panel 2: The Para-Demons, sentries of Apokolips, first appeared in New Gods (1st series) #7. Page 34, Panel 3: Darkseid, the ruler of Apokolips, first appeared in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen #134 .  Page 34, Panels 3-4: In the Marvel Universe, the Infinity Gauntlet grants its wearer mastery over the Soul Gems (also known as the Infinity Gems), which exert control over space, time, power, reality, the mind, and the soul. The Gems were first mentioned in Avengers (1st series) Annual #7. As referred to by Hawkeye, the Infinity Gauntlet was originally used by Thanos (see annotation for page 31) in his efforts to destroy all life in the Infinity Gauntlet mini-series.Page 34, Panel 6: Desaad, Darkseid's sadistic assistant and torturer, first appeared in Forever People (1st series) #2. Page 35, Panel 7: The Omega Effect is Darkseid's most terrifying power, consisting of potent beams of energy projected from his eyes that can lock onto and follow their chosen targets. When the beams strike, they produce one of any number of effects ranging from complete molecular disintegration to teleportation across time and space. Page 36, Panel 5: The Savage Land is a prehistoric jungle hidden away in the frozen wastes of Antarctica in the Marvel Universe that was first seen in X-Men (1st series) #10. The Cosmic Cube, a device able to grant its wielder anything they desire, was first created by the subversive organization Advanced Idea Mechanics in Tales of Suspense (1st series) #79. Page 44, Panel 1: The result of the game being declared even is similar to the result of the original Marvel Super Hero Contest of Champions mini-series, after which this issue's story is named (see page 3), which was also conducted by the Grandmaster. Al Harahap, Mark J. Reed, Dwight Williams, Vu Nguyen, Sean Walsh, Michael Grabois, Tom Smith, Joey Meyers, David Goldfarb, Zen Harawada, Torsten B. Abel, "DarkLantern", "Gravelerii", and Sean McQuaid added/corrected information that was used in this list. Also, don't forget ComiX-Fan's character guide for the cover of JLA/Avengers #3 (see JLA/AVENGERS #3 COVER CHARACTER GUIDE), and the annotated list for issues #1 (see 'JLA/AVENGERS #1 ANNOTATIONS'), #3 (see 'JLA/AVENGERS #3 ANNOTATIONS'), and #4 (see 'AVENGERS/JLA #4 ANNOTATIONS'). Check out ComiX-Fan's review of this issue by clicking here! Order Avengers/JLA #2 online now from X-World Comics and save! REMINDER: Pre-order the complete JLA/Avengers mini-series signed by writer Kurt Busiek online now from X-World Comics and help support ComiX-Fan!
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As you will see from the above list, there are a few things that we were unable to determine:
* Page 31, Panel 2: the two unknown chess pieces * Page 31, Panel 2: the Millennium Giant (and their first appearance) * Page 41, Panel 2: the sea creature summoned by Aquaman (and its first appearance) There's probably a whole lot more we're missing from that now-infamous page 31, such as all the other planets and gizmos! If anyone can help with identifying the above, I'd really appreciate it, thanks! (And, of course, we'll give you a credit at the end of the list!)
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wow.. great annotation as always. very cool, guys! it's fun to go back and read these little details.
i didn't notice that crossgen solus before.. very nice.
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good annotations. btw Alan Scott is no longer called sentinel.he reclaim the green Lantern title in JSA 50.
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Whoever does these annotations is hardcore.
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Impressive stuff. It can also be known that Happy Harbor (and the old Justice Cave) was at one time the headquarters for the now broken up youth hero team "Young Justice"
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The JLA watchtower in the book is different from that one which was in JLA#4. The current tower is created by Mark Waid. The list is simply superb. I thought i would just point this out.
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The Millenium Giants first appeared in Superman: The Man of Steel #78.
While I never read the storyline, I believe the Giant shown here is Cabraca, the Mayan mountain destroyer (can someone else back me up on this?). The JLA watchtower was modified (still in the same place) in JLA #52 by Leaguers who, then split apart from their alter-egos, had a lot of spare time on their hands. Also, the Eternity Book first appeared in Jack Kirby's The Demon #1, and the current Green Lantern power battery first appeared in Green Lantern (third series) #55. In the Flash Museum, Black Canary attacks Quicksilver atop an exhibit of a Mirror Master weapon. Mirror Master first appeared in The Flash #105. Another exhibit (in the panel where Wanda points out the direction of the artifact), is a statue of Colonel Computron, a Flash villain who first appeared in The Flash #304. DL |
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Skullogeist's comprehensive Unofficial Webguide to AVENGERS/JLA #2 check out his post on the JLA MBoard. His listing gives links to each character appearing with WHO'S WHO/OFFICAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE type history of characters.
Here is his listing for AVENGERS/JLA #1: JLA / AVENGERS #1 Unofficial Web Guide |
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roman numeral characters for DC
how are some of the characters from Dc given roman numerals? for example
shouldn't Wonder Woman II be Wonder Woman I due to the fact that Artemis was WW II and her mother was WW III |
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Page 31, Panel 2 Sentinel is not called Sentiel anymore. He is called Green Lantern these days as of JSA 50. when the JSA were fighting Moradu and the princes of darkness obsideon ripped his fathers (Sentinel/Green Lantern) starheart out of his chest and threw him into the shadowlands where Captain Marvel (Shazam) and Stargirl (star spangled kid) followed him.
In the shaddowlands the shade (from Robinsons starman) found Sentinel/Green lantern and saw that he was dying due to not having the starheart or green Lantern Ring. when they got out of the shadowlands they called in Jade (Alan Scott's daughter) who could imberse him with some Lantern power to help him survive and fight. He and Jade engaged Obsideon in battle across the country from the rest of the JSA who were fighting Moradu. When Jakeem Thunder sucked Moradu into his pen the starheart did not go in. the flash (jay garrick) grabbed it and ran across the entire American continent and just alan was about to be killed flash threw the star heart at him. as it drew closer to Alan it began to changed and by the time it got to alan it had formed... A Green Lantern Ring. Flash asked "...Sentinel..." Alan Scott " Sentinel... no not with this I am now and always will be...GREEN LANTERN. and later Wildcat "Sentinel?" Green Lantern "no Its Green Lantern again.
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Page 14 Panel 4: Santa Prisca was first seen prior to the Batman/Bane storyline in The Question #10 (Nov 87).
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Re: Page 31 (bottom right platform, clockwise from top) Deadman, Death (DC Universe incarnation), Death (Marvel Universe incarnation), Grim Reaper
---------------------------------- Eric, I keep thinking that the guy listed as "Grim Reaper" is actually Cloak of Marvel's Cloak and Dagger, based on the colors and the little glowy gem. I can't explain the upturned collar, and nobody else has seemed to think so, so I'm probably wrong. But I wanted to suggest it, since Grim Reaper's colors (from what I've seen) aren't as deep blue. That's all, Thanks for all the hard work. I love reading the annotations. -Luks0r |
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Yeah, Cloak's been a popular suggestion, but I can't help leaning towards the Grim Reaper because of the "death" theme the other characters on that platform have.
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this is cool, although i believe all 'em planets in p.31 exist in the dcu/mu
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Cloak? I was thinking perhaps Taskmaster or the Hood.
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The Hood is a possibility, but Taskmaster had a white cloak so it couldn't be him, I don't think.
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The Justice Cave (or, as I like to think of it, the Hole of Justice) was also the Doom Patrol's base of operations during their second ongoing series, when Grant Morrison was writing. (wish I could remember specifically which issues they were living there during, but that collection is a long way away). Also, depending on whether you're counting "headline" Green Lanterns, GLs of Earth or what I don't know, but I think you may be leaving one out in your Roman numeraling. Wasn't it revealed a while ago that there had been a GL hundreds of years ago in China named Jong Li? I know he was referred to in the Neil Gaiman-written Superman and Green Lantern story that was supposed to have been the sendoff for Action Comics Weekly, but got "lost" and was published as a oneshot a couple years ago, and then he had a miniseries to cash in on Crouching Tigermania more recently. He never had his own book, of course, but if you're going in terms of the history of the DCU, that'd make Kyle VI, wouldn't it?
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